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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:07 AM

On the way out the door this weekend I grabbed the wrong case from the safe and ended up with my wife's G19 instead of my G35. At the end of the match I shot it just for fun and was amazed at how reponsive and quick the gun is.

So, is there any reason not to shoot it in competition? I bought the gun for my wife to shoot at matches because it seemed to fit her hands. Is the grip any smaller than the G17?

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:15 AM

The Glock 19 is in the middle:

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The frame and slide are a little smaller shorter, but if you enjoy shooting it at matches then go for it.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:23 AM

More importantly she enjoys shooting it. It only took 5 stinkin years to find a gun she likes...

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:55 AM

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On the way out the door this weekend I grabbed the wrong case from the safe and ended up with my wife's G19 instead of my G35. At the end of the match I shot it just for fun and was amazed at how reponsive and quick the gun is.

So, if you forgot your Glock 35, and you didn't fire the Glock 19 til after the match, with what did you shoot the match? And how did you happen to have 9mm ammo with you?
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 05:46 AM

I have shot my G19 before in some IDPA matches and also I loan to friends sometimes so they can shoot matches. It's a great gun, just be careful doing mag changes so you don't pinch your hand between the magazine and the frame.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 08:30 AM

I used to do that periodically when speedloading a G19 back when that was my carry gun. I have to say that's one nice about the 17/34s I've carried for about the past five years: I don't have to worry about that.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 09:10 AM

If I could only have one gun, it would probably be a G19. It's a good carry gun, beside gun, and you can shoot it in a whole bunch of different sports. One drawback is that the grip is a bit shorter than a full size Glock and you can get bit as mentioned.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 09:57 AM

Bottom line is, you liked it, Run it

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:09 PM

View PostDuane Thomas, on Nov 17 2009, 03:55 AM, said:

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On the way out the door this weekend I grabbed the wrong case from the safe and ended up with my wife's G19 instead of my G35. At the end of the match I shot it just for fun and was amazed at how reponsive and quick the gun is.

So, if you forgot your Glock 35, and you didn't fire the Glock 19 til after the match, with what did you shoot the match? And how did you happen to have 9mm ammo with you?


I shoot the G35 in Limited and I planned on shooting my CZ-75B in production to get qualified. Since it was the last match of the year and I didn't feel like running home I just loaded the CZ to capacity and shot it limited minor. Since the classifier was Steely Speed IIV I think I might have gained an advantage-which was lost switching guns at the last second.

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:13 PM

Ah. :)
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:46 PM

View PostDoubleDelta, on Nov 17 2009, 04:07 AM, said:

I bought the gun for my wife to shoot at matches because it seemed to fit her hands. Is the grip any smaller than the G17?



Nope.

Same grip on the "around" part and same reach to the trigger.

It is just shorter on the part that sticks out below the hands. (magazine length)


Weird, huh? (no sense telling her...no good will come of it)


View PostDoubleDelta, on Nov 17 2009, 04:07 AM, said:

So, is there any reason not to shoot it in competition?


The only thing is to watch pinching your skin between the mag and magwell during reloads. Other than that...rock on. One of the most accurate practical shooters I know of competes with a G19.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:59 PM

View PostDoubleDelta, on Nov 17 2009, 04:07 AM, said:

Is the grip any smaller than the G17?

Flex has already given you the highlights --- but with an omission, I think.....

The three different frames -- 17, 19, 26 -- while sharing the same reach to trigger and accommodating the same magazines all fit the hand slightly differently. The geometry of the backstrap is a little different, it's not like they took a saw and simply chopped some of the 17 frame......
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:09 PM

I was comparing a 3rd Gen G19 just a few hours ago to my 3rd Gen G17, and aside from the very bottom on the backstrap where it curves in, the G19 grip does, to my untutored eyeballs at least, appear to be simply the G17 grip cut short.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 10:30 PM

Here ya go.

G-34 on top
2nd Gen G-17
G-19 on bottom

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 12:23 AM

View PostFlexmoney, on Nov 17 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

Weird, huh? (no sense telling her...no good will come of it)


You must have met my wife. She swears up and down that the 19 fits her better the 35. Oh well, as long as she is happy and shooting.

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:00 AM

I have had the exact same experience, a woman telling me she hates the G17 because the grip is "way too big" but loves the G19 because "the grip is so much smaller, it fits my hand really well." At that point, what can you do but smile and congratulate them on having found a gun that suits them so well? Perception is everything, we wouldn't be doing them a favor by pointing out the G19 grip is actually the exact same size as the G17 - basically IS the G17 grip - in everything but length. :lol:
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:23 AM

This is just a thought but, if you have a smaller hand, you may be prone to grabbing a full size Glock a bit further down the grip than you would with a compact. That would change the position of your hand relative to the trigger and might lead to it feeling a bit larger.
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