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Federal NT 40 S&W Brass, problems?

#1 User is offline   Bill J 

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:15 PM

The last few times I've been reloading on my 1050 I've had primer issues. Up until recently it has worked flawlessly. Tonight I started loading and in my first 100 rounds I had quite a few bad primers, smeared if you will like they are catching an edge.

I put them all in a plastic case holder and low and behold all the problems are with Federal NT 40 S&W cases. Upon closer inspection it's almost like the primers are crimped but it's really hard to tell. I adjusted my decrimping station down and instead of a 30% problem it's cut down to 10%. It seems I'll have to seperate them out and adjust the decrimper for this brass only and run them all through at once.

Anyone else having this problem with this particular brass?

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:36 PM

Toss the .40 NT brass, it's crap. I had a bunch of problems with primers seating with it on my 650 so I just toss them now. Haven't loaded as much .40 on my 1050. I stay even further away from FC in .40, especially the nickel plate.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 10:44 PM

Federal NT brass is awesome brass... once you remove the crimp- yes it is a crimp and without swaging them with your 1050 then won't seat for crap!

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:25 AM

NO! Listen to Landis.....The NT is crap, for proper disposal please send me your sorted NT headstamps. I have developed the perfect solution for getting rid of that brass :D
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 05:06 AM

Yep, the dreaded crimped primer pocket. Trade them to a friend with a 1050, or bring him some beer and he will let you swage out the crimp yourself! :roflol:
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 05:18 AM

Just make sure the the swager is set to iron out the crimp.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 09:37 AM

i had the same problem. it was not worth the effort for me. luckily i only had a 100 or so. i just trashed them.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 11:18 PM

What Is NT brass? I've used range brass for all my 40&9 loads and have only had trouble with some 2 flashhole brass and some brass that has WCC a crosshair is year stamped and both in 9mm. I like the nickle stuff myself it's loaded and shot fine in my gun
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 05:00 AM

KWD, the two flashhole brass is called berdan(different priming system) throw it away, usually found in surplus ammo from different countries, WCC headstamp is for winchester's military brass the little crosshairs is the 'nato' designation

federal a few yrs ago developed for indoor ranges, police ranges this stuff called NT, which stands for non toxic, they have different formulations in the primingcompounds(no lead styphinate) and the bullets are CMJ's so no lead onthe bases arevaporized at cartridge ignition, supposed to make indoor shooting 'safer' which is fine in theory, if everyone is using the same stuff, but what aboutthe guy in the next booth with the .45 shootin lead and some godd ol win 231??? kinda deafeats the pupose.....as forthe NT brass....junk it, there is too much other .40 brass laying around atthe loacl ranges to bother with de-crimpin primer pockets

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 06:19 AM

Thanks calishootr always good to learn a little something everyday.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 02:56 PM

Don't junk the NT, It's good brass. Just throw it in a box, and set it aside. When you have enough to make it worthwhile, trade it, sell it, or get a swage.
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 10:00 PM

I have just run 20K 9mm NT through my 1050. Once the crimp is gone the brass is fine.

As wide45 suggests sort it out and if you get enough get a swager.
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 02:21 PM

KWD,

NT brass is from non-toxic loads. It normally has crimped primers and needs to be swaged.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 02:23 PM

Oops. I didn't read calishootr's post.
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