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Ambi Mag Release Query

#1 User is offline   RaymondMillbrae 

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 04:28 PM

Hey folks,

I have a question for yall.

I am a right-handed shooter, and I made a boo-boo a while ago and lost part of my right thumb. ("No"...I didn't shoot it off).

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So along those lines, I am still looking for a more effecient method of dropping the mag from my 1911 pistol.

I have tried:

1) Tilting the pistol sideways (pointing left and upward), and reaching with my "stubby thumby" to depress the mag release.
2) Using my weak-hand thumb to depress the mag release, on it's way down to grab a spare mag from my belt holster.

They work OK, but I am still searching.

I have always LOVED the ambi mag release of my H&K USP Compact45 (see pix below), and would love to find something similar for a 1911...but alas, it is like finding the fountain of youth. *sigh*

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Anyhoo...in my search, I have found 2 different types of ambi mag releases.

One is the SMITH & ALEXANDER, and the other is the CYLINDER & SLIDE ambi mag release.

The Smith & Alexander looks nice, but carries a hefty price tag of $100.00. And the Cylinder & Slide can be found for a very decent $35.00.

I prefer the sleek look of the S&A ambi, but for the price difference, the C&S looks like a better bargain. The only catch I see about the Cylinder & Slide model is that it has a LEVER that needs to be pushed downward to release the magazine. Whereas the S&A just needs to be depressed like a regular magazine release.

So here's my question...is the Cylinder & Slide worth it? Will the lever catch on a holster and eject my magazine, or is it troublesome to use?

Once again, I WILL NOT be using it with my left-hand thumb. It will be used with my right-hand index finger.

Any input from personal experience would be appreciated.

In Christ: Raymond

This post has been edited by RaymondMillbrae: 11 November 2009 - 04:51 PM


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Posted 11 November 2009 - 04:38 PM

Raymond I hear alot about this one from splashdown, you may want to ask him about it.

http://www.bulletwor.../Mag_catch.html

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 04:47 PM

Pinnman44,

it looks pretty nice...but...

1) I cannot find a price tag for it on the website
2) It looks like it sticks-out a lot. I think it needs a home in a "ghost holster" more than a Blade-Tech.
3) Can I use this in a USPSA L-10 match, or in the Tactical Division for 3-gunning?

Thanks!

In Christ: Raymond

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 06:34 PM

The bullet Works is a very good unit. Works well in a blade tech, can be used in any division except production. There is a phone number on thier site, they are good folks, if you call and ask I bet they answer your questions.------------Larry
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 07:05 PM

Raymond, I purchased my mag releases from Mitchell custom about three years ago for a STI, and Kimber 1911. The price was $125.

It is a true drop in and works extremely well. I am right handed and it sits on the right side and I use my trigger finger without having to change my grip. I trimmed the bottom side becaue my finger rubbed against the botton. The left side uses a allen head screw and washer and with mediun lock tite will not loosen.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:34 PM

Raymond:

Good luck with your decision, the good thing is that you have options!

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:33 PM

Raymond,

Although I have my whole RH thumb, it is not much longer than what's left of yours. Experimenting with this I noticed that with my shooting grip of the pistol, the tip of my RH middle finger falls right under the mag catch button. All I do to depress it is slide the finger tip up. No grip change. I can do it with my 1911s equipped with Ed Brown mag catch and button and with my M&Ps. Hard to do with a Glock because of the square, pointy and sharp shape of the mag catch. Also, for me it's not as easy with 1911 with no undercut.

Try it and see if you can reach it while gripping the pistol. This may not be the answer you're looking for but it works for me.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:55 PM

Hello: You could try the Wilson mag release with the extension arm on it. Also you can cut a clearance channel for your thumb to help reach the mag release. I know a Grand Master shooter who did this on his single stack since he has short fingers as well and not very tall :roflol: His is s friend of Larry White. Thanks, Eric

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:54 PM

one of the guys I shoot with also got short thumbs. he tried the ambi mag release, and kept dropping mag when he didn't mean to. some how he kept hitting the mag button with his trigger finger.
I just installed http://www.brownells...AGAZINE_RELEASE
and it works great for him.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 04:28 AM

This is hard to do while taking pictures of it at the same time but here we go...

My shooting grip
Attached File  Mag_Drop_001.jpg (83.97K)
Number of downloads: 15

Middle finger tip goes to mag release button
Attached File  Mag_Drop_002.jpg (81.65K)
Number of downloads: 20

Depress
Attached File  Mag_Drop_003.jpg (86.84K)
Number of downloads: 15


Hope this helps.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 05:18 AM

I like the Mitchell Rt side magrelease- sturdy and IMHO a better unit that the c/s or sa.
I have one on my 1911 and 2011
Price is about 125 from speedshooter-listed under "misc"

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 08:13 AM

View PostPINMAN44, on Nov 11 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

Raymond I hear alot about this one from splashdown, you may want to ask him about it.

http://www.bulletwor.../Mag_catch.html

I handled one of these at A4 and I can tell you it is VERY smooth and almost effortless.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 08:33 AM

Hey guys,

I just wanted to say a hearty THANK YOU for all the replies.

And I wanted to tell NEMO, "Kudos, Hero"...for posting the step-by-step pix!!

In the end, I decided on the BULLETWORKS one from Mitchell Custom.

The more I think about it, and the more I play with my Nighthawk Predator...the more I realize it will work for me.

As a matter of fact, it is almost the same movement I love to use with my plastic pistol - the H&K USP Compact 45. (Darn near identical).

I am excited about it, and I can verify that it runs for $125.00, out dee door. (I emailed the guys, and they responded back to me on Thursday).

But here's the catch...it comes in a brushed silver color...and I do not want shiny stuff hanging off my weapon.

As a matter of fact, I have two other parts (for some other weapons) that also came in a non-blackened finish, and I was wondering what yall would recommend to blacken it. (One of them is an AR-15 compensator).

Duracoat?

Anyhoo...thanks again!

In Christ: Raymond

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:55 AM

View PostRaymondMillbrae, on Nov 13 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

And I wanted to tell NEMO, "Kudos, Hero"...for posting the step-by-step pix!!

You're most welcome, RM! B)

View PostRaymondMillbrae, on Nov 13 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

But here's the catch...it comes in a brushed silver color...and I do not want shiny stuff hanging off my weapon.

As a matter of fact, I have two other parts (for some other weapons) that also came in a non-blackened finish, and I was wondering what yall would recommend to blacken it. (One of them is an AR-15 compensator).

Duracoat?

I'm not sure Duracoat will last too long on the AR comp. I think your best bet would be IonBond. I'm sure Scott Springer can do those small parts for a very reasonable fee.

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