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ok, my press pi$$es me off sometime Hornady LNL
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 12:58 PM
i have a hornady lnl-ap
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and a couple things happen fairly frequently, ive caught onto how to deal with most of it but still things would go a bit faster and smoother (with less possibilities for screwups) without the extra hassles.
rounds dropping down from the case feeder will tumble sidways, get stuck in the drop tube ABOVE the stop switch and it will pile a big mess of cases up at the top if you dont shut it off.
sometimes the case feeder will have odd cases that spit out the top and fall and land on my head and stuff
when a new cases is dropped to be pushed into the shell plate somtimes it will drop funny and then just fall off of the press.
when new cases are pushed into the rotating shell plate, the case will kind of trip and fall sideways and then i need to instert it by hand
when i put a bullet into a case to be seated and i index the press the click will make the bullet jump out and off of the case.
then sometimes the loaded cartridge being ejected out of the last station wont eject and it will get stuck on something.
heh..anyways not quite 1000 rounds per hour by any stretch but still ALOT faster than a single stage, some of it might be the way its bolted to the table and other misc stuff but whatever
http://images.cabela...as...ain-Large$
and a couple things happen fairly frequently, ive caught onto how to deal with most of it but still things would go a bit faster and smoother (with less possibilities for screwups) without the extra hassles.
rounds dropping down from the case feeder will tumble sidways, get stuck in the drop tube ABOVE the stop switch and it will pile a big mess of cases up at the top if you dont shut it off.
sometimes the case feeder will have odd cases that spit out the top and fall and land on my head and stuff
when a new cases is dropped to be pushed into the shell plate somtimes it will drop funny and then just fall off of the press.
when new cases are pushed into the rotating shell plate, the case will kind of trip and fall sideways and then i need to instert it by hand
when i put a bullet into a case to be seated and i index the press the click will make the bullet jump out and off of the case.
then sometimes the loaded cartridge being ejected out of the last station wont eject and it will get stuck on something.
heh..anyways not quite 1000 rounds per hour by any stretch but still ALOT faster than a single stage, some of it might be the way its bolted to the table and other misc stuff but whatever
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 08:31 AM
Cases bouncing off your head would get old quickly. You do realize that there's a two word solution for all these problems right?
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This post has been edited by G-ManBart: 08 November 2009 - 08:32 AM
Bart AKA "Bulldozer"
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TY23298
SOB #8 The Selfincriminator
Never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
#3
Posted 08 November 2009 - 09:31 AM
I run all dillons, but I will try and give you some ideas anyway.
Why put the bullet on before the press indexes? If the press indexes on the up stroke, than that is poor design.
If not, then put the bullet on after the press indexes. If worse comes to worse, ride the bullet with your fingers until it starts into the seating die, then grab the next bullet while you finish the stroke of the press.
The cases going into the casefeeder tube sideways might be fixed by a shim. I am sure the casefeeder tube is tapered at the top to accomodate pistol and rifle cartridges. You might be able to use a shim at the top to narrow down the taper when you are loading shorter cartridges.
As far as the cases jumping out of the casefeeder, climb up there and watch the thing run and see what they are getting caught on. My guess is that something is sticking out and catching the cases and sometimes causes enough bind to launch the case. You should be able to see what it is by watching.
As far as the other issues with cases not being inserted correctly, probably adjustment issues.
Then again you could just get the dillon. At least all the fixes for issues are posted on this website.
Randy
Why put the bullet on before the press indexes? If the press indexes on the up stroke, than that is poor design.
The cases going into the casefeeder tube sideways might be fixed by a shim. I am sure the casefeeder tube is tapered at the top to accomodate pistol and rifle cartridges. You might be able to use a shim at the top to narrow down the taper when you are loading shorter cartridges.
As far as the cases jumping out of the casefeeder, climb up there and watch the thing run and see what they are getting caught on. My guess is that something is sticking out and catching the cases and sometimes causes enough bind to launch the case. You should be able to see what it is by watching.
As far as the other issues with cases not being inserted correctly, probably adjustment issues.
Then again you could just get the dillon. At least all the fixes for issues are posted on this website.
Randy
This post has been edited by h2osport: 08 November 2009 - 09:32 AM
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:03 PM
With the case feeder in use, the press needs to be mounted solidly to a bench that doesn't move. That'll solve part of the case feeding issues and is a good idea for any press.
If the cases are hitting the top of the case funnel as they come out of the feeder, you may need to close up part of the case feeder opening so they drop directly into the funnel without getting tipped. This is usually a pistol caliber case issue. It's been awhile, but I think I used part of a business card duct taped to the outside of the feeder bowl.
If cases are coming out the top of the case feeder, you may putting too many in at a time. They aren't designed to be filled to the brim.
If the cases are hitting the top of the case funnel as they come out of the feeder, you may need to close up part of the case feeder opening so they drop directly into the funnel without getting tipped. This is usually a pistol caliber case issue. It's been awhile, but I think I used part of a business card duct taped to the outside of the feeder bowl.
If cases are coming out the top of the case feeder, you may putting too many in at a time. They aren't designed to be filled to the brim.
This post has been edited by 1911user: 08 November 2009 - 01:07 PM
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:08 AM
Field, sorry to hear that you are that frustrated.
Your first post didn't include quite enough information. I have a few questions:
1. When was your LNL manufactured? Specifically, does it have the EZJect?
2. What caliber are you loading when you encounter these problems?
A common cause of cases tumbling sideways is a mis-fit between the the case feeder bowl and the drop chute, which is attached to the motor mount, not to the bowl. Look at the alignment between the RIGHT edge of the slot in the case feed bowl and the RIGHT edge of the drop chute. The right edge of the slot in the bowl should NOT be to the right of the right edge of the chute. If it is, the falling case will hit the right edge of the chute and be tipped sideways. That is a fairly easy fix, but it requires removing the bowl and elongating four holes in the motor mount.
Need more information. What caliber cases were you loading, and where do they "spit out" from?
.45 ACP, by any chance? That's the only caliber that I have had that problem with. Hornady has a fix.
This one is probably an adjustment problem.
I agree with the previous poster. Start the bullet at the end of the shellplate rotation, if you don't have enough case flare to hold it against the click.
Do you have the EZJect? If not, it can be retrofitted to your press.
Yes, the press has to be bolted firmly to the bench. If you really need 1,000 rounds per hour, you should be using a Dilllon 1050. I know -- I have one. In my experience, the LNL is a great press, but mine is only good for around 600 to 700 rounds per hour, as a steady production rate.
Jim M.
Your first post didn't include quite enough information. I have a few questions:
1. When was your LNL manufactured? Specifically, does it have the EZJect?
2. What caliber are you loading when you encounter these problems?
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rounds dropping down from the case feeder will tumble sidways, get stuck in the drop tube ABOVE the stop switch and it will pile a big mess of cases up at the top if you dont shut it off.
A common cause of cases tumbling sideways is a mis-fit between the the case feeder bowl and the drop chute, which is attached to the motor mount, not to the bowl. Look at the alignment between the RIGHT edge of the slot in the case feed bowl and the RIGHT edge of the drop chute. The right edge of the slot in the bowl should NOT be to the right of the right edge of the chute. If it is, the falling case will hit the right edge of the chute and be tipped sideways. That is a fairly easy fix, but it requires removing the bowl and elongating four holes in the motor mount.
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sometimes the case feeder will have odd cases that spit out the top and fall and land on my head and stuff
Need more information. What caliber cases were you loading, and where do they "spit out" from?
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when a new cases is dropped to be pushed into the shell plate somtimes it will drop funny and then just fall off of the press.
.45 ACP, by any chance? That's the only caliber that I have had that problem with. Hornady has a fix.
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when new cases are pushed into the rotating shell plate, the case will kind of trip and fall sideways and then i need to instert it by hand
This one is probably an adjustment problem.
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when i put a bullet into a case to be seated and i index the press the click will make the bullet jump out and off of the case.
I agree with the previous poster. Start the bullet at the end of the shellplate rotation, if you don't have enough case flare to hold it against the click.
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then sometimes the loaded cartridge being ejected out of the last station wont eject and it will get stuck on something.
Do you have the EZJect? If not, it can be retrofitted to your press.
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heh..anyways not quite 1000 rounds per hour by any stretch but still ALOT faster than a single stage, some of it might be the way its bolted to the table and other misc stuff but whatever
Yes, the press has to be bolted firmly to the bench. If you really need 1,000 rounds per hour, you should be using a Dilllon 1050. I know -- I have one. In my experience, the LNL is a great press, but mine is only good for around 600 to 700 rounds per hour, as a steady production rate.
Jim M.
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