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Nickle Brass and Loose Primers Anyone have this happen?

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 12:01 PM

Over the last couple of years of reloading with my SDB, I have had a issue with 9mm nickle brass only. When I seat the primer it goes in really easy with no resistance at all and occationally the primer falls out completely (this is rare but it has happened a couple of times) I am ready to quit using nickle completely. Has anyone else had this happen? Or am I crazy and unlucky? :wacko:
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 12:04 PM

View Postdanscrapbags, on Nov 4 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Over the last couple of years of reloading with my SDB, I have had a issue with 9mm nickle brass only. When I seat the primer it goes in really easy with no resistance at all and occationally the primer falls out completely (this is rare but it has happened a couple of times) I am ready to quit using nickle completely. Has anyone else had this happen? Or am I crazy and unlucky? :wacko:


I've had it happen on all kinds of brass that has been reloaded to much. You Marks A Lot Trick? If they go in to easy, but don't fall right out, you can run a marker over them and it will seal them in. I then mark the outside of the case too and throw it away after I shoot it. This way it won't fall out and you don't waste a primer. :)

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:45 PM

View Postdanscrapbags, on Nov 4 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

Over the last couple of years of reloading with my SDB, I have had a issue with 9mm nickle brass only. When I seat the primer it goes in really easy with no resistance at all and occationally the primer falls out completely (this is rare but it has happened a couple of times) I am ready to quit using nickle completely. Has anyone else had this happen? Or am I crazy and unlucky? :wacko:


Oh god yes. With my 38 supers, I had a whole bunch of stretched out primer pockets, only with nickel plated casings. I found that after loading a couple hundred rounds of nickel cases, if I put them in the tumbler for a few minutes (less than 5) any loose primers would fall out and I wouldn't have to worry about having a loose primer ruin a match for me. For what it's worth...
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:43 AM

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View Postdanscrapbags, on Nov 4 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

Over the last couple of years of reloading with my SDB, I have had a issue with 9mm nickle brass only. When I seat the primer it goes in really easy with no resistance at all and occationally the primer falls out completely (this is rare but it has happened a couple of times) I am ready to quit using nickle completely. Has anyone else had this happen? Or am I crazy and unlucky? :wacko:


Oh god yes. With my 38 supers, I had a whole bunch of stretched out primer pockets, only with nickel plated casings. I found that after loading a couple hundred rounds of nickel cases, if I put them in the tumbler for a few minutes (less than 5) any loose primers would fall out and I wouldn't have to worry about having a loose primer ruin a match for me. For what it's worth...


I'm not having issues with "nickel" brass specifically, but I can say 9major seems really hard on primer pockets. Are you using brass that may have been shot in an open gun? I also tumble loaded ammo to check for loose primers.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 06:31 AM

View Postboz1911, on Nov 5 2009, 04:43 AM, said:

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View Postdanscrapbags, on Nov 4 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

Over the last couple of years of reloading with my SDB, I have had a issue with 9mm nickle brass only. When I seat the primer it goes in really easy with no resistance at all and occationally the primer falls out completely (this is rare but it has happened a couple of times) I am ready to quit using nickle completely. Has anyone else had this happen? Or am I crazy and unlucky? :wacko:


Oh god yes. With my 38 supers, I had a whole bunch of stretched out primer pockets, only with nickel plated casings. I found that after loading a couple hundred rounds of nickel cases, if I put them in the tumbler for a few minutes (less than 5) any loose primers would fall out and I wouldn't have to worry about having a loose primer ruin a match for me. For what it's worth...


I'm not having issues with "nickel" brass specifically, but I can say 9major seems really hard on primer pockets. Are you using brass that may have been shot in an open gun? I also tumble loaded ammo to check for loose primers.


Yes, it could be 9mm Open Major brass, I just thought that it was funny that only the nickel brass was causing this issue. I never thought about tumbling loaded ammo, that's a good idea. Thanks
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 09:59 AM

have you done any shooting with the 454, 357 max, or 357 mag with any high pressure pistol or rifle round. the primer hole expands and eventually either your cases crack, seperate, or can't hold a primer. ditch the brass and get some more

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:55 PM

I've not noticed any problems with nickle cases loading with my SDB. I have some primers that are looser than others but, I have yet to see one fall out since I started loading 9mm, about 8,000 rounds ago. I will admit that I just don't see many nickle cases in the range brass that I load, maybe 5 per 100, never more than that.

I just started loading 9 major and I'm up to the 3rd reload on some cases and I have yet to detect any loose primer pockets. I have a batch of about 20 or so that I chase down and reload with each fresh batch of ammo to get the count up. I'm working up loads so I should be able to get these reloaded several times fairly quickly to see what gives out first, primer pockets or split cases. So far, so good, no real problems.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 08:50 PM

If you can get your hands on some, Federal SP, SPM, and SR primers are a touch larger than Win and a few other brands. They'll be fine in primer pockets that are just loose enough that Win would fall out. R,
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