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Nov 2 2009, 07:08 AM
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![]() Looks for Match ![]() Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 1-October 07 Member No.: 12478 |
Just to get an idea of what people prefer.
I have my opinions but when setting up I would like to make it good for everyone not just me I may have missed a few options in the poll but I think this will help out a lot. |
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Nov 2 2009, 07:36 AM
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Finally read the FAQs ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 53 Joined: 21-September 09 From: Buffalo,TX Member No.: 21130 |
at our club we are limited as to what we can set up because we have tires for side berms. All our shots must go straight down range. For a long time all the club set up was a couple standards style courses with the classifier and then put everything together for a long run and gun stage. Now some of us newer guys are doing stage design and trying to make things more interesting so we have to use more props and do " run downrange " type stages.
I love designing stages and wish i could go all out. But I gotta work with what i got. -------------------- Aaron Vezorak A-65587
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Nov 2 2009, 10:39 AM
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![]() Calls Shots ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 539 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Brunswick, GA Member No.: 14685 |
I like wide transitions, options-shoot it long or shoot it short, and movement with the opportunity to shoot on the move.
-------------------- If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough.
1911 Single Stack Elitist Club #88 |
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Nov 2 2009, 12:03 PM
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Sees Sights Lift ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 369 Joined: 9-September 05 From: Charlotte NC Member No.: 6496 |
I like longer courses where you can have some variety and have some fun. That's what shooting should be about in my opinion. That doesn't mean that every stage has to be big, just put some creativity into it. I mean, I know this is a game, and people want to compete, but we want to have fun. When you show up at a match, and someone has put in a lot of thought to props and targets and makes it interesting it is a lot more fun. Anybody can go to an indoor range and stand in one place and shoot downrange..that is boring to me.
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Nov 2 2009, 03:30 PM
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![]() Calls Shots ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 539 Joined: 4-November 06 From: On the Bayou Teche in New Iberia, La. Member No.: 9477 |
I think the best monthly matches offer a variety of courses, without undue emphasis on any in particular. A couple of fun free style field courses, medium and long, a barn burner stand-and-shoot or two, one real devilish challenge, with stages offer everything from in your face to accuracy challenges...it's variety that makes a good monthly match, IMO.
Curtis -------------------- "Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true." -- Buddha
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Nov 2 2009, 03:39 PM
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![]() Let Your Freak Flag Fly ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Forum Dealer Posts: 5879 Joined: 5-March 07 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 10719 |
I like to build them they same as one might see at any area or sectional match.
JT -------------------- "Time has little to do with infinity and jelly doughnuts" TSM
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." AE "The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it." FN "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home." EM “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson |
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Nov 2 2009, 04:29 PM
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Beyond it All ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 1415 Joined: 8-October 07 From: Bermuda Dunes CA Member No.: 12546 |
I like to come in Saturday afternoon with the idea of a carnival type stage with people doing all sorts of things that are totally unnecesary, and having Jeff (pbmagnet) bring me down to earth and get the jist of the idea down to a simpe yet effective stage. then I watch all the gamers take it apart and shoot it far better than I!
Happens every month! One of these months I will not only shoot it better, but shoot theirs better too! And I won't be subtle of low-key about it either! So to answer your question, I like the stages that Jeff helps me build. They are the ones I am learning the most on from all angles, both designer and participant. JZ |
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Nov 3 2009, 09:03 AM
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Finally read the FAQs ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 51 Joined: 25-May 08 From: dundee oregon Member No.: 14900 |
My favorite ones are stages with multiple solutions. I love it when you see three or four guys in front of you all shoot the stage a different way it let's you be creative and try your own solution.
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Nov 4 2009, 06:02 AM
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![]() Let's get ready to....Roomba !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 1641 Joined: 7-May 01 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1541 |
I would like to add that a favorite type of stage does not make up a favorite type of match. You can have a great mixture of stand-and-shoots and field courses to make up a great match. A great make IMO will have a good balance of stages WITHOUT to many gimmicks. Carnaval Matches sounds great on paper but seldom are the best matches and or stages....again just my opinion.
-------------------- Paul Whitacre
"When the pressure is on think of it as an opportunity to succeed, not an opportunity to fail." |
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Nov 4 2009, 06:51 AM
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![]() All Seeing and All Knowing Eye ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28180 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Ohio (Columbus, McConnelsville) Member No.: 690 |
Well said, Paul. Though I do like a little bit of the "distraction from the shooting". It needs to work well. A little can go a long way.
-------------------- Have FUN....be safe...and, instead of worrying about what you are "suppose to do" - - notice what you are doing. Ask yourself why. See if it meshes with where you want to go.
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Nov 5 2009, 05:18 AM
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![]() Let's get ready to....Roomba !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 1641 Joined: 7-May 01 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1541 |
Flex, you are correct, it is always fun to keep the shooter on his toes and through a little something out of the norm at them, as long as it is safe and not to over-the-top.
-------------------- Paul Whitacre
"When the pressure is on think of it as an opportunity to succeed, not an opportunity to fail." |
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Nov 5 2009, 09:00 AM
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![]() aka: Graywolf_69 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 2384 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Great Falls, Montana Member No.: 801 |
I like the long (32) round courses because I have to drive so far to get there. But I do understand that the competition committee needs to pick COF's that will keep bringing back the members we have and hopefully bring back new shooters who show up. The real problems come up at set up time where the decision has to be made as to how difficult a shot has to be. Should it be a long shot, should it be a shorter shot with hard cover or no shoot? For a match where a lot of us old codgers show up close open targets with hard cover works best. A MD needs to be able to balance the difficulty level of the shots with the expected levels of participation at the match. A match I like might be boring to a master class open or limited shooter but what about that older revo/L10 shooter who can't do a 10 sec El Prez. I wouldn't like to see 6 classifiers each match nor a 50 yard standard at any time but what ever is selected needs multiple methods of engagement to accommodate the various divisions and classes of people attending.
Might have trouble getting people to come back if you had a stage a match that sent several people for ice cream. -------------------- LeRoy Patterson
Eagle Firearms Instruction LLC FIA C-12411 TY-40734 CRO 101st Airborne Vet US Air Force Retired [There is no speed. Speed does not exisit. Only what I see exisits. I see what I can see. What I see is what is. If I want more I need to see more.] Shamelessly stolen from Calamity Jane |
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Nov 5 2009, 10:29 AM
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![]() Let's get ready to....Roomba !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 1641 Joined: 7-May 01 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1541 |
We had a recent match where they took classic targets and made the lower half hard cover and you had to shoot them from about 20-30 yrds. This IMO was a little to much. So many people try and setup stages to "slow down" the GM/M classes and it back fires on them. A GM/M will take the time and have the discipline to make the shot and some of the newer shooters and C/D shooters will struggle and have misses. So a GM/M will just do a straight forward stage faster and a really hard stage they will figure out and make sure they get their hits. I try and make sure that a stage is setup whereas an average shooter could shot it fairly easily and a GM/M will just to it faster. Don't get me wrong I like the Standards and really hard shots but you don't want to frusturate the masses to much. Again just my opinion.
-------------------- Paul Whitacre
"When the pressure is on think of it as an opportunity to succeed, not an opportunity to fail." |
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Nov 5 2009, 07:06 PM
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![]() Beyond it All ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 1277 Joined: 20-February 05 From: Gainesville, Florida Member No.: 5360 |
I have a definite preference for long COF's with challenging shots and multiple ways of shooting it. I hate stages that really can only be shot one way and with all of the targets at 10 yards or less.
-------------------- Mr. SOB #16 "Times Two"
Consistency - It's only a virtue if you're not a total screwup. |
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Nov 5 2009, 08:02 PM
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Calls Shots ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 623 Joined: 6-September 08 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 15836 |
The best part of level 1 matches is that you can have stages of over 32 rounds. Lots of rounds, lots of movement, more than one way to shoot it. Half the fun is seeing how other folks shoot it and figuring out which way is faster. I also prefer stages that have a movement element, a speed section and some real challenging shots- all rolled into one stage... oh and LOTS of steel- preferably with a star or 2.
-------------------- I was born, I shall die... the time between is mine.
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Nov 5 2009, 08:18 PM
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![]() One Shot...more than a case lube! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 502 Joined: 6-August 06 From: Missoula, MT 59801 Member No.: 8745 |
I love the long courses, but the touble at a local level match is set up. I will shoot any course no matter how it is set up.
Randy -------------------- Rudy Project USA Competition Squad
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Nov 9 2009, 07:18 PM
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![]() Looks for Range ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 21-December 08 From: Spokane WA area Member No.: 17026 |
I dislike shooting boxes, but with the ranges we have here they must be used a lot to control the shooting direction. But the worst is when they pull a target from a 4 target array to make it revolver friendly (I like 4 target arrays). At a lot of the matches I am the only revolver shooter (some times we get 2 or 3 though). High round count and difficult stages are sweet.
-------------------- Leonard C. Russell
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Nov 9 2009, 08:03 PM
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![]() Burned Out ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 2564 Joined: 23-March 03 From: NY Member No.: 2258 |
I like stages that are not made of arrays.
-------------------- Rich B. Keeper of Worthless Information
Dare to Fail "When you're driving hard out on the limit and the true love of speed comes over you, you don't want to slow up. You know that you ought to maybe. But you're locked into something so big that you can't let go. It's always the same -- the faster you go the less you care about being able to stop. Ever." -- racing driver Sam Posey |
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Nov 11 2009, 05:34 PM
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Finally read the FAQs ![]() ![]() Group: Classified Posts: 50 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Medina, OH Member No.: 20714 |
I like the longer stages, with movement. Ports are good (high and low), along with the risk/reward of be able to take long shots. Carnival shoots, while fun, get to be a little much if they make up an entire match.
For what its worth, I have been to three matches. My likes and dislikes are going to change the more I shoot. -------------------- Aaron Smith
A-66329, as of 09/09/09 |
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