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Shedding weight off my TRP

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 08:52 PM

So I want to use my TRP for CDP but it weighs 42oz. SA dosen't say if that is with the mag or not. I would like to keep the FLGR so any other ideas or if someone else shoots a TRP and has put there's on a diet it would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:45 AM

View PostVictor R, on Oct 25 2009, 11:52 PM, said:

So I want to use my TRP for CDP but it weighs 42oz. SA dosen't say if that is with the mag or not. I would like to keep the FLGR so any other ideas or if someone else shoots a TRP and has put there's on a diet it would be appreciated. Thanks.


First get a good scale and weigh it with the mags your going to use. If you like the FLGR then try a briley aluminum one, that will save weight. A aluminum or plastic MSH will help as well.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:30 AM

http://www.brianenos...?...6438&hl=TRP

Grips are extremely heavy on the TRP.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:07 AM

Thanks for the link and the advice guy's. Looks like I have some work to do.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:50 AM

The dremel tool is your friend.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:36 PM

View PostSteve Koski, on Oct 26 2009, 10:50 AM, said:

The dremel tool is your friend.


LOL. Not for me. I almost lost my eye the last time I used a dremel. I

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:00 PM

Victor,

I like full-length guide rods, too. Love them, actually. But before I'd start making serious mods to a gun to make weight, with all the potential for screwing things up that entails, I'd seriously consider just going the easy parts switch route and replacing the FLGR with a shorty guide rod and solid plug. You can lose an ounce right there with no other change to the gun.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:04 PM

Honestly, with my TRP the grips were atrociously heavy. 2.2 oz for the G10. Cheap rubber grips were .6 oz. That's serious weight loss without touching any functionality.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:10 PM

What are the TRP grips made out of?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:13 PM

G10 (fiberglass and epoxy). They're stupid dense. I did both the grips and the guide rod, but the grips alone were enough.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:14 PM

Thanks for the info, Seth. :)
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:17 PM

Its about time I can return the favor, Duane!!!! I've gotten more than my share from you!
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM

yeah, normal set of G10's weigh in around 2.2 to 2.6 ounces! My coco bolo's weigh in about 1.2 ounces. I would also like to echo what steel says and IF you need some more weight to shed, the Aluminum FLGR would be a better alternative, because I also believe in my FLGR's.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:30 PM

Do aluminum FLGRs really stand up over the long term? I'm asking, I've never used one.

Actually, not to expose my ignorance, but until this thread I had never even heard of an aluminum 1911 FLGR. How long have these things been around?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:49 PM

Duane, give Claudio at Briley Manufacturing a call regarding the Aluminum FLGR. Sounds like a nice little article for you. :-)
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:11 PM

View PostAristotle, on Oct 26 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

Duane, give Claudio at Briley Manufacturing a call regarding the Aluminum FLGR. Sounds like a nice little article for you. :-)


I've used one all season in my SS and other than a small spot of rub mark its good as new. Some other guys have been using them in their open guns for a loooong time with no ill effects.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:56 PM

Hm. Interesting.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:39 PM

Alright, edumacate me. What's so cool about a FLGR? Do no FL's have reliability problems?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:56 PM

View PostSeth, on Oct 26 2009, 01:13 PM, said:

G10 (fiberglass and epoxy). They're stupid dense. I did both the grips and the guide rod, but the grips alone were enough.


Can you point me to the link where you got your grips and which ones? Thanks for everyone's help.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:02 AM

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Alright, edumacate me. What's so cool about a FLGR? Do no FL's have reliability problems?

Not in my experience. Why would they?

What I like most about FLGRs is that, in my experience, they make your recoil spring last a lot longer. I replace my recoil spring when it's become compressed three coils. I found that with my Wilson .45 and 170 pf match loads, using the traditional system with short guide rod I could only run about 1,000 rounds through the gun before the spring had become compressed three coils. With the exact same gun, exact same load, with an FLGR I could run 5,000 rounds on one spring before it had become compressed three coils. This makes sense if you think about it: with the shorty guide rod the spring is unsupported along most of its length, therefore every time you fire the gun it snakes around inside the recoil spring tunnel. This constant kinking and unkinking is very hard on the spring and wears it out in short order. With an FLGR by contrast the spring is supported along its entire length, it compresses and then re-extends in a much more straightline fashion, without all that bending and kinking, and the upshot is that your recoil spring lasts one HELL of a lot longer.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:52 AM

Cool. Thanks!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:05 PM

Yer welcome. :)
Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
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