Will a standard lee decaping/resizing die resize all the way down the case? My dillon die doesn't seem to do so, and many of my rounds won't guage well. I think it is because the bottom of the case isn't getting resized. I'm shooting BBI moly bullet and they say on their website not to use a U-die because it will put enough force on the moly bullet to undersize the bullet itself. So I'm wondering if the standard size die will help. And yes my dillon die is all the way down to the shellplate.
Thanks!
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Standard Lee decap/resize size all the way down?
#2
Posted 16 October 2009 - 10:52 AM
Dillon dies are known to leave a lot of the case near the extraction groove unsized. I run a Square Deal with the proprietary Dillon dies for that press. I use a regular Lee resizing die in a single stage press to resize as much of the case as possible, making sure to cam over the press handle to take out all the slop in the linkage. Then I run them as normal through the SD. If I ever pony up for a 650, I'd run a Lee in station 1, or maybe a U die (made by Lee), if I needed it. As is, the regular Lee resizer as been adequate for me. Some run the Lee factory crimp die in the last station as added insurance.
#3
Posted 17 October 2009 - 06:05 AM
The die that BBI is talking about is the Lee Factory Crimp die as it can resize the bullet as part of the crimp operation. Your question is pretty general as there have been many comments about "Glocked" brass and other causes of ammo not going in a case guage. However most brass that I have that won't fit a case guage is because the rim is out of round or otherwise is the problem. The 9mm is a tapered case but the 40 & 45 are straight wall so it is possible to see if the rim is the problem by inserting the case backwards. Sometimes doing this and wiggling the cases around will allow it to guage.
Personally I use a U die and factory crimp die in 9MM, 40 & 45 and only guage match ammo. Screwups with practice ammo provide the clearance drills that most of us don't do enough.
Personally I use a U die and factory crimp die in 9MM, 40 & 45 and only guage match ammo. Screwups with practice ammo provide the clearance drills that most of us don't do enough.
LeRoy Patterson
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NRA Pistol Instructor - Certified Glock Armorer
101st Airborne 1957-60 - US Air Force 1961-80 Retired
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Eagle Firearms Instruction LLC
TY-40734 CRO
NRA Pistol Instructor - Certified Glock Armorer
101st Airborne 1957-60 - US Air Force 1961-80 Retired
FIA C-12411 250 FF
#7
Posted 21 October 2009 - 07:16 AM
A number of people are taking apart the LFC die and running the brass through that pre loading.
I just roll size my brass on a CasePro100.
I just roll size my brass on a CasePro100.
RePete
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Stercus Accidit = Latin for Shit Happens
Nice try = you suck spelled different
Proud member of the WTFDTSG club
#8
Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:25 AM
I don't seem to have many 9mm's that fail gauge and I am using Dillon dies throughout. A local shooter who is a machinist said he turned the bottom of his Dillon Sizer Die down and it sizes all the way down. That is a cheap fix as long as the guy doing the turning knows what he is doing. If I start encountering more problems I will probably try that fix first.
Kevin Sanders
US Army 1SG Retired
1979-2000
19Z50
TY-64885
RO June 2009
US Army 1SG Retired
1979-2000
19Z50
TY-64885
RO June 2009
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