 Do you feel you are are good shooter?, Or at least know you are getting better... |
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 Oct 14 2009, 09:59 PM
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 Sees Sights Lift  Group: Classified Posts: 446 Joined: 20-June 07 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 11529  |
Perfection, like infinity, can not be reached or truly understood. It can be imagined and pursued, but there will always be the possibility of a little more or a little better. I enjoy the pursuit, even though I know it's imaginary.
-------------------- The world's largest gnome.
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Oct 15 2009, 06:34 AM
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 Sees Target Group: Classified Posts: 204 Joined: 29-January 09 From: Gonzales, LA Member No.: 17684 |
Good? Maybe. Great? Not so much.
Improving? You bet. -------------------- |
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Oct 15 2009, 04:21 PM
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 Ghost Dog Group: Admin Posts: 11862 Joined: 1-May 01 From: AZ Member No.: 171 |
QUOTE (lugnut @ Oct 14 2009, 07:37 PM)  QUOTE (benos @ Oct 14 2009, 10:22 PM) Also, from your brief opening post - I wonder if you take matches too seriously? If that rings a bell, set a firm resolve to shoot a few matches without caring one bit whatsoever about how you finish. Just enjoy being there and see what happens. be Wow... that would be so hard... really hard. I don't kill myself over them but when I feel that a few poor shots cost me a match win or better place- yeah I have a hard time with that. Don't get me wrong- when I'm preparing for a stage and/or when the buzzer goes off all I think about is doing what I train to do... not about beating anyone. Matter of fact I often like to squad with people I don't compete with... it just distracts me. But ultimately I DO care about where I finish for sure. But not caring at all... man I'll try. Either way- I do have fun and enjoy myself thoroughly. That's good to hear. And yes, truly not caring is very hard to do, for pretty much everyone probably. There was either a good thread on that lately, or a good thread with good posts in it on not caring. If I see it I'll link it here. be -------------------- Hope is for the fools that care about what they hope for.
BrianEnos.com Online Store: Books | Slide-Glide | Dillon Precision | DVDs | Wilson | Donate | BROWNELLS BrianEnos.com Dealer Forum / Blems in Stock "I hate people when they're not polite." David Byrne |
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Oct 18 2009, 10:20 PM
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Looks for Target Group: Classified Posts: 190 Joined: 23-July 09 Member No.: 20285 |
the hardest part for me to shake was that its the stage that i am competing against, notthe people, its up to me, to forulate the plan and execute it to best complete the stage within my equipment/skill level
once i got past the part of ignoring the guy in my face sayin he was gonna 'beat me like a drum' that day....hey, it was time to have fun, as i get older i learn that stages and or whole matches have many different complexities on many different levels to play with your mind, its up to you, as to if you are gonna let them... am I a good shooter?? tough to answer, I am better than when i first started 20 yrs ago, and I am always learning as i go, one thing aboutthis sport, not cool to stand pat on the knowlege aspect of it.... |
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Oct 19 2009, 02:29 AM
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 GM in probation division... Group: Classified Posts: 3078 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Peachtree City, Georgia Member No.: 7294 |
My stand and shoot skills are great, but lately I have lost confidence or something. Every match wheels are falling off left and right. I don't know what's happening, it just is...........
-------------------- TY54309 Team Swiss Cake Rolls
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Oct 19 2009, 05:34 AM
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 Just Keep Livin' Group: Moderators Posts: 4582 Joined: 16-February 02 From: Fenton, Michigan Member No.: 2020 |
Go back to the fundamentals.
Find the target. Ge the sights on the target. Keep the sights there till the bullet exits the barrel. Repeat as needed and don't concern yourself with anything else. -------------------- Jake Di Vita, A46718
"There are no trophies on the wall for the times I've lived large and lost. Those I carry with me." -Bonedaddy |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:49 AM
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 Finally read the FAQs Group: Classified Posts: 69 Joined: 1-January 06 From: Northen Virginia Member No.: 7251 |
Somedays I feel like a great shooter, others I feel like a big donkey.
I've always felt that I can always do better. I just recently made my B card in Limited, L-10 and Prodution but I feel that I'm not competitive as a B shooter. Am I being too negative? Am I being too hard on myself? Probably and definately My shooting buddies say that I shoot great and they are all M shooters. I had a GM tell me that I have a lot of talent and can be really good. I guess it comes down to the fact that I can be a great shooter, but it all is in my hands. I don't pratice or dry fire nearly as much as I should I took 2008 off from shooting and my scores reflected that. Now that I'm back to shooting full time, my goal is my A card in Limited, L-10 and Prodution. I know how to get there, I just have to get of my a$$ and do it. You have to have goals, my A card is my goal for now. After I reach that, M will be my goal. -------------------- Terry P.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk! - Tuco |
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Oct 24 2009, 10:52 AM
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Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 940 Joined: 11-August 07 Member No.: 12007 |
I'm reading a book now- "The inner game of tennis" Lot and lots of help for shooters in this book as well. It alludes to the idea of "not caring" like be mentioned. Very interesting so far.
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Oct 24 2009, 12:49 PM
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 Story Teller Group: Moderators Posts: 9161 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 604 |
The Inner Game of Tennis is a classic of the mental game.
-------------------- Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
- Sam Amateurs do it til they get it right. Professionals do it til they can't get it wrong. "It's not the will to win that matters - everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." - Paul "Bear" Bryant "The only reason why Everest is the highest mountain ever climbed is because it's the highest. If there was one higher, I bet there'd be people trying to climb it." - Jack Barnes |
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Oct 27 2009, 11:59 AM
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 Going the extra mile... Group: Moderators Posts: 3702 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 1535 |
-------------------- It is not the critic who counts, nor the one who points out how the strong man stumbled, or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with sweat and dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
I aim to misbehave www.patharrison.ca |
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Oct 27 2009, 12:10 PM
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 Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 841 Joined: 21-June 07 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 11533 |
I feel like I will be a lifelong student of the art of the handgunner. I learned this year that I have a lot more to learn.
-------------------- Rudy Project USA Competition Squad
"When you get down to it, impeccable action driven by pure attention is beautiful, and a true mystery." B.Enos My shooting videos on Youtube |
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Oct 27 2009, 01:56 PM
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 This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps. Group: Moderators Posts: 6071 Joined: 25-January 06 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 7403 |
Link to what I am referring to
In every barrier and tier of my shooting journey I felt like I was chained watching the shadows of the next level. Once I broke free I found myself in bondage again of a whole new level of shooting...a whole new mindset... Given the inherent personal interpretation of "good" I would have to say that I am not a good shooter. There is always another level...always something to be learned. -------------------- |
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Oct 27 2009, 02:33 PM
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 Shooting Better Everyday! Group: Classified Posts: 7079 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 4139 |
QUOTE (Pharaoh Bender @ Oct 27 2009, 04:56 PM) Link to what I am referring to In every barrier and tier of my shooting journey I felt like I was chained watching the shadows of the next level. Once I broke free I found myself in bondage again of a whole new level of shooting...a whole new mindset... Given the inherent personal interpretation of "good" I would have to say that I am not a good shooter. There is always another level...always something to be learned. ..... but since that never goes away for us perfectionists .... at some point you have to tell yourself you are good. Or where do you find the confidence to instill in your subconscious, that "I can do this" . I can win. I am "good enough". -------------------- Chris Keen
Rudy Project USA Shooting Team USPSA - A46956 My YouTube Videos Shooting Better Every Day! You'll start shooting with less doubt in matches once you've removed all doubt in practice - Brian Enos "If you want to be great, you've got to come to an understanding that you've got to put in the work" |
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Oct 27 2009, 02:47 PM
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 All Seeing and All Knowing Eye Group: Admin Posts: 28180 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Ohio (Columbus, McConnelsville) Member No.: 690 |
In execution.
-------------------- Have FUN....be safe...and, instead of worrying about what you are "suppose to do" - - notice what you are doing. Ask yourself why. See if it meshes with where you want to go.
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Oct 27 2009, 02:53 PM
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Shooting Better Everyday! Group: Classified Posts: 7079 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 4139 |
QUOTE (Flexmoney @ Oct 27 2009, 05:47 PM) In execution. through which the pupil realizes he "is good". -------------------- Chris Keen
Rudy Project USA Shooting Team USPSA - A46956 My YouTube Videos Shooting Better Every Day! You'll start shooting with less doubt in matches once you've removed all doubt in practice - Brian Enos "If you want to be great, you've got to come to an understanding that you've got to put in the work" |
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Oct 27 2009, 03:07 PM
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 Sees Sights Lift Group: Classified Posts: 371 Joined: 18-October 07 From: Peru, Indiana Member No.: 12611 |
Outside of competition shooters, you bet, I'm damn good. Inside the circle of people who compete and posted above me, ....... Hey man, I'm just a "B". I'm just learning that "I don't know", kinda scary. I shoot competitively for 5 years and find after that time I'm just getting glimpses of the knowlege and skill required to keep improving. Kinda like reading Brian's book 4 years ago and understanding very little, then rereading it a couple months ago and the light bulb is a little brighter. Now I know more and it is more exciting and scary at the same time, because I also realize how much I don't know.
This post has been edited by fourtrax: Oct 28 2009, 02:00 PM -------------------- Good luck, experiment, pass knowledge!!
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Oct 27 2009, 03:21 PM
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Going the extra mile... Group: Moderators Posts: 3702 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 1535 |
Jake hit it on the head.
What is "good" or "good enough"? Maybe you have learned when you realize that "good" or "good enough" doesn't matter. These are the trappings of ego. If you have practiced, paid attention without judging, then you don't need to tell yourself or convince yourself that you are good. You will just perform, that's all you can do. To tell yourself that you are good, or can win, or are good enough tells me that deep down there is doubt. When there is no doubt, theres nothing to be convinced of. -------------------- It is not the critic who counts, nor the one who points out how the strong man stumbled, or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with sweat and dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
I aim to misbehave www.patharrison.ca |
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Oct 27 2009, 03:47 PM
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Shooting Better Everyday! Group: Classified Posts: 7079 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 4139 |
QUOTE (Pat Harrison @ Oct 27 2009, 06:21 PM) You will just perform, that's all you can do. To tell yourself that you are good, or can win, or are good enough tells me that deep down there is doubt. [b]When there is no doubt, theres nothing to be convinced of.[/b] And with that, you will notice that earlier today, I added a new line to my signature .......  You'll start shooting with less doubt in matches once you've removed all doubt in practice - Brian Enos -------------------- Chris Keen
Rudy Project USA Shooting Team USPSA - A46956 My YouTube Videos Shooting Better Every Day! You'll start shooting with less doubt in matches once you've removed all doubt in practice - Brian Enos "If you want to be great, you've got to come to an understanding that you've got to put in the work" |
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Oct 27 2009, 03:50 PM
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Going the extra mile... Group: Moderators Posts: 3702 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 1535 |
What thread was that from?
Lol...never mind, just found it, guess I should have read through the WHOLE thread before posting!
Reason for edit: D'oh
-------------------- It is not the critic who counts, nor the one who points out how the strong man stumbled, or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with sweat and dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
I aim to misbehave www.patharrison.ca |
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Oct 27 2009, 07:14 PM
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Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 940 Joined: 11-August 07 Member No.: 12007 |
Was going thru the be archives... this about sums it up.
"We improve as we continue to recognize our limitations. " |
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Nov 3 2009, 03:17 PM
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 Finally read the FAQs Group: Classified Posts: 120 Joined: 23-September 09 From: the sticks Member No.: 21154 |
im a little bit better every week, i figure ill be pretty cool in a few years, as with anything else being good and admired by others for your skills just takes time and effort....and a bit of smarts.
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Nov 3 2009, 03:28 PM
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 I like Shooting Group: Classified Posts: 3455 Joined: 26-March 02 From: Cowlumbus OH Member No.: 307 |
Self image has a lot to do with good performance.
I am a good shooter. I mean that matter of fact, not with arrogance or ego. Some people read or hear this and get their panties bunched up. Not what I am trying to do. There can be a lot of freedom and progression with a positive self image. -------------------- DVC
Bill Seevers I run with scissors... fast Always take the red pill Speed is Beautiful |
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Nov 5 2009, 03:18 PM
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 Burned Out Group: Classified Posts: 2565 Joined: 23-March 03 From: NY Member No.: 2258 |
 I'm an excellent shooter. -------------------- Rich B. Keeper of Worthless Information
Dare to Fail "When you're driving hard out on the limit and the true love of speed comes over you, you don't want to slow up. You know that you ought to maybe. But you're locked into something so big that you can't let go. It's always the same -- the faster you go the less you care about being able to stop. Ever." -- racing driver Sam Posey |
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Nov 5 2009, 04:51 PM
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 Barnestormer Group: Classified Posts: 1874 Joined: 17-October 01 From: Western Pennsylvania Member No.: 942 |
As they say, the enemy of great is good.
This is almost a chicken or egg conversation. The never ending quest to improve nearly forces one to believe that s/he isn't good, or at least good enough, and yet to some extent there is the need to recognize a degree of competence so one can have the confidence to execute. If I go shoot a round of skeet and shoot 25 birds am I good? Good enough? Possibly. Say I go 100 for 100. Am I there then? 400 for 400? 4000 for 4000? It's tough to say. To some extent this whole dynamic boils down to simply understanding capability and capacity. You test your capability, and extend your capacity, during practice. The more you practice the better you are capable of executing, and the capacity of things you can execute increases. Then, when you go shoot, you simply execute what you already know you can do. Jack -------------------- "In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins . . . not through strength but by perseverance" H. Jackson Brown
"If a picture is worth a thousand words, than an experience is worth a thousand pictures" Unknown "The goal is not to be the best of the best, but to do what only you can do" Jerry Garcia |
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