[Field]

here are some videos of me shooting ipsc, im mainly looking for critisicm here or advice and ideas that i might not have thought of or not looked at in a certain way. they are from oldest to newest. I know there isnt much way to tell how accurate i am shooting which is a huge part of the whole thing but any constructive comments are appreciated. I will probably update this thread with new material when possible. Im not sure how much shooting ill be able to do after this month but i have a couple more matches at least.

please post any of your own videos or other helpful videos here if you like. thanks.

oh also if you need to know anything related, please ask.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SrAAQfjAYAY
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mCupdW062XM
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IVvaMg0GvnE
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=k9q5iUW4LTc
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qFTfirmdwiU
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=btHwTcgW4to
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jnQVStJqfnw

This post has been edited by Field: 11 October 2009 - 10:24 PM

[bball97]

Field, on Oct 12 2009, 12:12 AM, said:

here are some videos of me shooting ipsc, im mainly looking for critisicm here or advice and ideas that i might not have thought of or not looked at in a certain way. they are from oldest to newest. I know there isnt much way to tell how accurate i am shooting which is a huge part of the whole thing but any constructive comments are appreciated. I will probably update this thread with new material when possible. Im not sure how much shooting ill be able to do after this month but i have a couple more matches at least.

please post any of your own videos or other helpful videos here if you like. thanks.

oh also if you need to know anything related, please ask.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SrAAQfjAYAY
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mCupdW062XM
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IVvaMg0GvnE
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=k9q5iUW4LTc
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qFTfirmdwiU
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=btHwTcgW4to
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jnQVStJqfnw

I haven't done that myself yet, but it sure looks fun! Maybe that loud music was distracting! HA. Keep shooting...

This post has been edited by bball97: 13 October 2009 - 04:32 PM

[Audifn]

I only watched the first parts of the last two videos, however right off the bat, I can see a issue with the way you move/run with the gun. When you take off running with the gun, you have both hands on it and you are pointing it down at the ground at a 45degree or lower angle. Its almost like some kind of police/tactical/entry team movement. This works fine in that enviroment, but is not really safe for ipsc (you liked you swept your toes a few times on the run) and also it is not fast or competitive, because you have your gun way below your line of sight while moving and this means that you will be slow getting the gun to target when the time comes.

Also the fact that you don't break your grip when you are running, also slows you down. You will be able to move A LOT faster and smoother if you take your weak hand off your gun when you run or move any more than say 3to4 steps. When your arms are free you can pump your arms to get going faster as well as use them to stabilize your movement.

Practice keeping the gun up high so that it is always in your field of vision, this will help with quickly getting the gun on target, as well as maintaining muzzle control when moving quickly.

Here is a video of TT showing speed reloads, but starting at 2.24 he shows some good movement skills with breaking his grip, and punping his arms when he moves, and you can see how it allows him to get quickly back on target as he moves into position:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hD7zEjt_VR8

[Field]

Audifn, on Oct 13 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

right off the bat, I can see a issue with the way you move/run with the gun. When you take off running with the gun, you have both hands on it and you are pointing it down at the ground at a 45degree or lower angle. Its almost like some kind of police/tactical/entry team movement. This works fine in that enviroment, but is not really safe for ipsc (you liked you swept your toes a few times on the run) and also it is not fast or competitive, because you have your gun way below your line of sight while moving and this means that you will be slow getting the gun to target when the time comes.

Also the fact that you don't break your grip when you are running, also slows you down. You will be able to move A LOT faster and smoother if you take your weak hand off your gun when you run or move any more than say 3to4 steps. When your arms are free you can pump your arms to get going faster as well as use them to stabilize your movement.

+1 thanks

[sheik_djibouti]

ok, i'll bite. i watched the 1st video, and for your first action pistol match you looked remarkably good- a lot better than my first match, that's for sure.

here are a few things-

first stage- pick a spot on the ground to setup for your first shot- you looked unsure of a position- during your walk-through find where you want to end up and get there right off the bat.

reloads- your reloads are remarkably efficient, but you are doing them unnecessarily low, which brings your head down low and requires you to have to present everything anew again, instead of just pushing out straight from a high reload. also, on one of your strong-hand stages, you push or jettison your mag out- wasted motion- pick and use mags that fall out freely and just dump them with the mag release- dont waste motion.

your dq stage- you engaged one target on the left and then another on the right- drive the gun hard with the gun up, instead of breaking it back into your gut and having to push out again- this is a good technique for predictable and short target to target transitions.

final advice, take a class with a production shooter, and keep video taping your stuff to review but pick better music.

[G-ManBart]

I only watched the last video (10/11) and there were a couple of things. One port you had four paper and one popper. You left on the popper. It's generally a good idea to leave on paper because if you miss or don't drop the popper and have started to leave (which always happens), you have to stop, go back and hit it again...big time killer.

On one stage (starting at the 29 second mark) you shoot four paper while sort of side-stepping between each target. You don't have to square up to short range targets like that....keep your feet pointed where you're going, turn your upper body and engage them as you smoothly walk past them. I couldn't quite tell if the targets were just bagged or if they had no-shoots? On the last stage (at the 1:20 mark) you got into the port and shifted your position for each target. Work on finding one spot where you can keep your feet planted and then just shift your weight by bending your knees as necessary to let you sweep from one target to the next. R,

[Field]

sheik_djibouti, on Oct 13 2009, 07:56 PM, said:

reloads- you are doing them unnecessarily low, which brings your head down low and requires you to have to present everything anew again,

yeah ive been practicing trying to have the magwell up near my eye level but im still having trouble actually doing it when im at a match. its a hard habit to kick.

[Field]

G-ManBart, on Oct 13 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

On one stage (starting at the 29 second mark) you shoot four paper while sort of side-stepping between each target.

yeah i thought i looked kind of goofy when i watched that afterwards

G-ManBart, on Oct 13 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

I couldn't quite tell if the targets were just bagged or if they had no-shoots?

it was a halloween theme and the targets were supposed to be ghosts. the bags were soft cover. then i used that ghostbusters music to be cheesy.

[Houngan]

Quick and dirty:

Lean forward. You're leaning away from the gun, which is something everyone does until they lose their flinch reflex. Forward means that you have weight fighting recoil, you can start moving more quickly, and your head is tucked into your shoulders and tracking with them.

As mentioned, have a destination in mind. On the walkthrough, figure out where you can stand to engage all the targets in an array. Unless there's a forced reload, it's always better to travel into position a bit deep if you can avoid shuffling your feet later on. I try to find a mark on the fault line or a something else permanent for my foot to touch on the way in. Leave position + start reload at same time, once reload is going in, find your spot. Two steps out, get the gun back up, find the sights, and start aiming at your first target through the wall. When you see it and settle, have at it.

Work on turning from your legs, not shoulders and not much from waist if you can avoid it.

Bend your knees at all times.

-- so my main advice is to work on relaxing. All of this stuff comes with familiarity and relaxation, you should go out and leave the gun in the truck for a few runs, and just see how fast you can move your body through a stage. You'll quickly see that you never lean back, your legs never lock, and you start moving your weight towards the next spot immediately.

H.

[Flexmoney]

You're in a hurry.

[Supermoto]

Flexmoney, on Oct 15 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

You're in a hurry.

It seemed like the video was slightly sped up, but in all the wrong places

[Field]

Supermoto, on Oct 15 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

It seemed like the video was slightly sped up, but in all the wrong places

where?

[Field]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PRdW7c6cCbI

[fourtrax]

I watched the last vid of original post. I thought your reloads were a little low, I'd try to keep the gun up a little more in the facebox area. You do seem to be leaning back a lot while shooting. I noticed that some things seemed to be engaged in an order that didn't seem efficient. Several poppers through a port in which you are coming in from the left, but start engaging the left most popper. Now I'm not there and don't have your on the scene angles, but from the vid I would have engaged the right most popper coming in and worked to the left on them as leaving the port. G-man is right on the money about those behind the wall super close targets. Overall, I thought you looked good, a little hurried, but still in control. A mantra that has helped me is something B.E. said in a post I read, "I am not in a hurry, I move quickly" Good luck!


Edited to add: I just watched vid in post 13. Looks like you are taking care of the backwards lean nicely, good job. Reloads still need to come up in the facebox area in my opinion. I noticed that you try to do two things at once, move and reload. I like to try and get that reload done in the first step and then blast to next position. You sometimes commit to both at the same time (moving and reloading) and therefore neither are optimal. Looking good, keep up the work!

This post has been edited by fourtrax: 26 October 2009 - 04:34 PM

[Field]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=le7i36cOEwA

[SA Friday]

You are losing a lot of time on your reloads. They need to be solid, especially in production Div were you have to reload almost every time you have to move.

Dry fire is where you can fix this. That gun is on a imaginary string from your eyes to the target. From the time you start your reload to the time you re-engage the next target, the gun should not leave the string. Move your weak from the gun to the next mag quicker. Index finger on the front of the mag and snap that mag to the well. See the mag at the well aligned properly and instert the mag. As the mag seats, roll your hand to the grip and re-engage the next target (or finish movement with the hand off the gun).

You are planting and then shooting. Get the gun up and on target before you hit the location where you want to shoot. Even if you can't see the target, one or two steps from the location where you want to shoot from, get the gun up and ready. Once you hit the mark, the gun should be on the target. Don't stand up after hitting your mark. Hit the spot and shoot.

[fourtrax]

SA Friday is on the money. Too many of your reloads you bring the gun almost down to your waist area. Keep it on the "imaginary string". Get Lanny's book and learn how to "visualize the whole stage". This helped me to keep my gun in the appropriate facebox area because I knew where that next target was before I got to the spot. Keep it up. Reload in first step or two then blast to next position. Several times you moved and reloaded all the way to the next position. Neither was efficient, reload or movement. This also compounds itself into other areas. An example is coming in to the next position you are still finishing up the reload and trying to set up, around 55 seconds I think. Anyways, if you had done that reload, then blasted to the next position with the gun in your facebox you would have been more efficient. I can't do two things at once and do either well. Keep up the good work and the gun. Good luck!!!

[MemphisMechanic]

Flexmoney, on Oct 15 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

You're in a hurry.

This is huge.

How are you doing on points? Given the frantic/panicked pace of your movement, I'm guessing you're dropping some.

[Field]

MemphisMechanic, on Nov 6 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

How are you doing on points? Given the frantic/panicked pace of your movement, I'm guessing you're dropping some.

well im not shooting all alphas but generally i get very few deltas or mikes.

heres a new one theres a bit of steel in it

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mrpLfCU72nA

a few of the stages i blew because of malfs mainly fte's im not enTIREly sure what the deal is because when i practiced on wednesday i shot off 300 rounds and had 1 fte and that was it. so idk maybe im ridin the slide a bit too much or my brass is inconsistent what have you. or maybe it was how they are crimped but really the inconsistency of it kind of pisses me off. i reallllly really hate malfs very much. i drive for 2 hours to some place to have my gun do malfs all over my face.

This post has been edited by Field: 08 November 2009 - 07:23 PM

[Field]

Flexmoney, on Oct 15 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

You're in a hurry.

i dont completely get this whole thing. when i make an effort to be faster i actually AM faster. its not one of those things where you feel more relaxed and you are actually going faster than when you are feeling tense. as far as shooting accurately though, yeah having that tense look probably makes my hands shake a bit more and make me a worse shot and all that.

[Supermoto]

Field, on Nov 9 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Flexmoney, on Oct 15 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

You're in a hurry.

i dont completely get this whole thing. when i make an effort to be faster i actually AM faster. its not one of those things where you feel more relaxed and you are actually going faster than when you are feeling tense. as far as shooting accurately though, yeah having that tense look probably makes my hands shake a bit more and make me a worse shot and all that.

Fast comes from the economy of motion, don't try to be fast, try to do less

[CHA-LEE]

Why does the video speed seem faster than normal?

[Field]

CHA-LEE, on Nov 10 2009, 11:45 AM, said:

Why does the video speed seem faster than normal?

huh? is your internetz broke?

[Audifn]

CHA-LEE, on Nov 10 2009, 01:45 PM, said:

Why does the video speed seem faster than normal?

I noticed that too. everything but the start of each stage is sped up.

[Field]

the only time i thought a video on youtube was sped up was when that saul kirsch guy blasted a bunch of targets while sitting at a table with his open gun

does this look sped up? i recorded this production GM with my same camera.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=59XgWOF8GDI

This post has been edited by Field: 11 November 2009 - 08:10 PM