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230 GR w/ Titegroup

#1 User is offline   Whitey627 

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:17 AM

Can anybody share a good 45 ACP load using Montana Gold 230gr JHP with Titegroup?

Going to be shooting them out of a 625 revo at USPSA

Thanks!

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:37 AM

Matt,
Use Clays with the 230 grain bullets. It shoots softer.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 08:05 AM

View PostDan Sierpina, on Oct 9 2009, 10:37 AM, said:

Matt,
Use Clays with the 230 grain bullets. It shoots softer.


Thanks Dan. I would like to do some experimenting with Clays and 45. Parker has made this recommendation in the past as well. But given my last minute decision to shoot revolver instead of limited on Sunday I only have TG to work with right now.

BTW will you be at the match this weekend?

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 08:50 AM

View PostWhitey627, on Oct 9 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

View PostDan Sierpina, on Oct 9 2009, 10:37 AM, said:

Matt,
Use Clays with the 230 grain bullets. It shoots softer.


Thanks Dan. I would like to do some experimenting with Clays and 45. Parker has made this recommendation in the past as well. But given my last minute decision to shoot revolver instead of limited on Sunday I only have TG to work with right now.

BTW will you be at the match this weekend?


I may be at the match, but not shooting, screwed up knee. I can't walk fast without it hurting, if there's a low port I'm toast. Kathie is talking about shooting.
Oh, and I didn't think my dog gave out loading data. :lol:

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:59 AM

I have used 4.4 - 4.7 grains of Titegroup for 115gr FMJ 9mm, 180gr FMJ .40, and 230gr FMJ .45.

http://data.hodgdon....tridge_load.asp lists the range 12 4.4 - 4.8.

Looking back at my records from when I was shooting that through an M&P, 4.4gr gave me 685fps for a PF of 157.5 and 4.6gr gave me 721fps for 165.8.

I did not get the numbers Hodgdon publishes. They say 4.4gr should yield 744fps, but it didn't out of my M&P.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:57 AM

I shot a 625 in IDPA and USPSA for the past 3 years and I always loaded 230 grain Zeros or Montana Gold FMJs.

My load was 4.5 grains of TG. I never went minor or too high.... but be aware... that powder (which I still use) is very temprature sensative. I left my ammo in a car trunk at 35 degrees and it dropped the PF to the point where I used ALL my chrono loads to make major. If you let it get VERY hot.... your load will be too.

That's the only negative I have found out about TG.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 12:04 PM

Sorry. Missed the fact that you're shooting Revo.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 12:28 PM

Oops, I missed that, too.

BTW, the M&P I mentioned was a new semiauto, not an older revolver.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 04:38 PM

I just loaded some 230 gr black bullets with Clays. Much softer than my TG loads. They also work well in my 1911. I plan to shoot revo after Gator. I wanna see if it will go any better. So far it has been really bad. Maybe a little practice will help.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:48 AM

i always liked titegroup with 230 fmj bullets. the load is just REALLY dirty

i used 4.5 grains and a rainier 230 plated 1.250 oal and federal primers.


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:48 PM

tight group is just too low volume powder to work well in a large case like the .45 You are much better off with something with a much larger volume per grain, as the above poster stated your acuracy will suffer and it wont burn clean.

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 10:03 PM

View PostJoe4d, on Oct 30 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

tight group is just too low volume powder to work well in a large case like the .45 You are much better off with something with a much larger volume per grain, as the above poster stated your acuracy will suffer and it wont burn clean.


Does the volume have anything to do with it? I've been shooting VV N310 for years in 45 behind Laser Cast 200 gr LSWC with excellent results....can't get a much smaller load then that...

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 03:07 PM

I also use 4.5g of TG with 230g JHP with oal of 1.200 and a Fiocchi LP. They shoot consistent and group well.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 06:16 PM

View PostDan Sierpina, on Oct 9 2009, 09:37 AM, said:

Matt,
Use Clays with the 230 grain bullets. It shoots softer.

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