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#1 User is offline   fritzthemoose 

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:22 AM

HI everyone,

wondering if someone of you has experience with non C-More/Aimpoint red dot sights. Just recently an Aimpoint quit on me. Than I found out, that lots of people have this problem because supposingly the contacts are glued or so and so after time get loose. If thats true than that kind of money is simply too much.

I dont like C-More that much. Shooting outside in the sun is a pain in the ass for me and the dot is also much harder to find than in a tube one. At least for me.

So I am looking for an alternative. Should be tube one useable for IPSC. I am shooting 9 major so the sight will get a beating.

I saw that Tasco is quite cheap but not sure how long they will last with this price. There are several other companies with similar prices but again not sure if they will last

any idea?
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 04:16 AM

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 06:13 AM

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

HI everyone,

wondering if someone of you has experience with non C-More/Aimpoint red dot sights. Just recently an Aimpoint quit on me. Than I found out, that lots of people have this problem because supposingly the contacts are glued or so and so after time get loose. If thats true than that kind of money is simply too much.


Completely wrong in my experience

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

I saw that Tasco is quite cheap but not sure how long they will last with this price. There are several other companies with similar prices but again not sure if they will last

any idea?


Tasco's are much LESS reliable than the Aimpoint

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 06:20 AM

I'll be posting pictures of my new setup very soon. Not a C'more and not an Aimpoint.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:31 AM

i have a bushnell micro dot on top of my open glock.

very nice but the dot is only 3moa.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 12:01 PM

View Postlarry cazes, on Oct 4 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

HI everyone,

wondering if someone of you has experience with non C-More/Aimpoint red dot sights. Just recently an Aimpoint quit on me. Than I found out, that lots of people have this problem because supposingly the contacts are glued or so and so after time get loose. If thats true than that kind of money is simply too much.


Completely wrong in my experience


could you please elaborate on this one a little bid
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 12:27 PM

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

View Postlarry cazes, on Oct 4 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

HI everyone,

wondering if someone of you has experience with non C-More/Aimpoint red dot sights. Just recently an Aimpoint quit on me. Than I found out, that lots of people have this problem because supposingly the contacts are glued or so and so after time get loose. If thats true than that kind of money is simply too much.


Completely wrong in my experience


could you please elaborate on this one a little bid


The old Aimpoints used to die very quickly...some within 1,000 rounds. They fixed that problem about 15 years ago ;)
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 01:58 PM

View PostG-ManBart, on Oct 4 2009, 02:27 PM, said:

The old Aimpoints used to die very quickly...some within 1,000 rounds. They fixed that problem about 15 years ago ;)


The opposite holds true for the Tasco red dot scopes. Old ones were bullet-proof.

The PDP2 purchased in 1995 finally cratered around 2007. Its replacement lasted less than a year. The second replacement was good for possibly 4000 rounds.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:22 PM

View PostFlatland Shooter, on Oct 4 2009, 04:58 PM, said:

View PostG-ManBart, on Oct 4 2009, 02:27 PM, said:

The old Aimpoints used to die very quickly...some within 1,000 rounds. They fixed that problem about 15 years ago ;)


The opposite holds true for the Tasco red dot scopes. Old ones were bullet-proof.

The PDP2 purchased in 1995 finally cratered around 2007. Its replacement lasted less than a year. The second replacement was good for possibly 4000 rounds.

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Well, the earlier Tascos died very quickly as well. The earlier PDP series often died as quick, or quicker than the early Aimpoints. I knew guys that had one or two for practice and then a "match" scope that they tracked rounds on because they failed so often. I remember there were a number of folks tearing them apart and putting epoxy on certain parts, changing stuff etc to bulletproof them. Too bad they've gone full circle.
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 06:01 PM

Guess I got lucky with Tasco, have a PDP 2 that went from a 45 single stack open gun to a 38 super to a shotgun for a while and now resides on an AR, thing probably has 100,000 rounds on it and it still works with no problems.

Also have the one with 4 diff sized dots and it has seen all most as many rounds with no problems although most have been on a rifle.

Just about everyone has come out with a Dr style sight now, there are also the Meprolite (sp) type sights but I think those might be a bit large for pistol.
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 07:29 PM

Hmmm....I thought that a Aimpoint was "Top of the Line" for tube type Red dots. I have two...but they are mounted on SMG's...no quite the same as a open pistol. But each has atleast 20,000K under them...never a issue. I cannot imagine any cheaper tube Red dot beating the reliabilty of the Aimpoint....not too mention having Zero drift, etc..

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 07:49 PM

Not an answer to the question you asked but Aimpoint has a good rep for repairing their scopes.

I initially could not use a Cmore here in the AZ sun. I put on a Limcat glare shield and with an 8moa dot I have not lost it once other than due to ugly presentations which would be, uh, yeah, operator error. :rolleyes: The difference was really dramatic for me.
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 08:29 PM

back when we first started putting dots on guns, tasco was pretty much the only game in town, and pricey, knew of one shooter who had one on the gun, the spare in the bag, one broke one being shipped back to tasco to be fixed, and a fixed one on the way back to him, at a price tag of 250 per....local guys started shortening tubes and 'bullet proofing em, and they started to hold up, ive blown up 3 PDP4's on my open shotgun tho....on/off dial seems to be the weak link there....

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 09:19 PM

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

View Postlarry cazes, on Oct 4 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

View Postfritzthemoose, on Oct 4 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

HI everyone,

wondering if someone of you has experience with non C-More/Aimpoint red dot sights. Just recently an Aimpoint quit on me. Than I found out, that lots of people have this problem because supposingly the contacts are glued or so and so after time get loose. If thats true than that kind of money is simply too much.


Completely wrong in my experience


could you please elaborate on this one a little bid


Well, my experience is quite different that yours. In fact, just the opposite. I find aimpoints to be quite robust, more so than ANY of the other dots including the Cmore and Docter. I personally have never seen a Tasco PDP3 last more than 3K rounds on any of my open guns. I went through 4 before giving up on them.

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