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Posted 03 October 2009 - 03:36 PM

Not sure which direction I should go, maybe get some input and suggestions from you guys.

I have a G24C, already have the Glockworx ultimate trigger and Dawson magwell installed. With a solid barrel and a good set of sights, this seems like an ideal limited gun. However, I could throw an optic on and go open with it as well. I was thinking of getting a 9mm barrel and comp setup instead on it though. Will the Glock frame and guts handle 9mm major? It already seems a little heavy out front so I was thinking of lightening the slide, especially if I were to go the 9mm route.

Any ideas here?

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 04:25 PM

I hate to answer your question with a question, but what do you WANT to do? If you like the challenge of shooting iron sights and having a pistol that is somewhat more challenging to control, shoot limited. If you just want to "race", and think learning to shoot an optic sight would be fun, well, shoot open.
I don't know the Glock models, so I don't know what a G24C is, but there are a lot of Glocks shooting Major/Open.
Of course with iron sights you can shoot Ltd, L-10, and Production with the same gun. That could be fun.
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 04:50 PM

I believe G24 is not production legal. I have a G35 with a 9mm barrel and have only gotten it to run 100% at one steel match. 9mm with a .40 breech face is kinda hit and miss with reliability. I agree with Al build the gun to shoot what you want. You could always build a .40 open gun as well.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 07:05 PM

Hello: Get a plan 40 barrel and shoot Limited or Limited 10. You will learn alot that way without spending alot. Then you can decide if the Glock plateform is for you. I would also try some open pistols after a match to see if they fit you as well. Shooting an open gun is not always for everyone. Hope this helps. Thanks, Eric

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 07:07 PM

Didn't know the .40 had a different breechface, nice to know now. A .40 open gun was suggested, I was just worried about capacity for open. I always thought that it would make a bad ass limited gun.

Never shot with a dot, wouldn't mind trying though. This seems to be the cheapest route.

The G24C is a 6" factory ported barrel.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 07:46 PM

If you throw a comp on the end you will have an extremely long open gun. alot of guys building open glocks are going with the 17 length slide for that very reason

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:00 AM

The 24 screams limited gun to me.....

For open, major I'd want to start with a G-17....
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:29 AM

the mag capacity is not as big of an issue as folks lead you to believe.

the 24 would be a better limited gun, but dont let me decide for you what you want to shoot.

a J-point equipped G22 with a lone wolf barrel and Jager comp would be a nice addition to the g24, and it will shoot good enough with your limited ammo to still be pretty competitive.

a top end and big stick mag and you should be good to go for both limited and open.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:20 AM

I tried an open glock on a g17 platform built by a reputable Glock specialist. Over a year later later, trips back to the gunsmith and eliminating every variable except the comp, and thousands of rounds later, I was never able to get the gun to run. I now shoot a Glock 22 in Ltd and I can't get it to malfunction, so I am having way more fun with it. Also, at the Nationals, a shooter ahead of our squad was using an open Glock. That shooter was having the same problems that I encountered.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:34 AM

View PostNik Habicht, on Oct 4 2009, 12:00 PM, said:

The 24 screams limited gun to me.....

For open, major I'd want to start with a G-17....


Exactly what I was thinking.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:49 AM

ganderman, as other people have said it depends on what you want to do with it. I have a 24C with a Fast Fire for GSSF Unlimited and I have shot some steel with it. I don't know of anyone making a threaded barrel to add a regular comp on and it would be pretty long if you could find one. I've added Taylor floorplates to a couple of mags and I can get a reliable 20 round reload with a 170mm mag that I plan to try next year.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 05:53 PM

I'm more of a limited guy at heart anyways and thought that the G24 platform was perfect for it. The open thing was just brought up by another shooter on our last practice night.

Would you guys recommend lightening the slide? Just seems a little heavy up front. When you do lighten the slide, do you have to go with a different weight recoil spring?

ganderman

Thanks for your input

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:10 PM

Hello: Try a 13lb ISMI recoil spring and don't lighten the slide but add a weighted magwell to balance it out. You may also try a G35 to see how that feels weight wise. Thanks, Eric

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:49 PM

if I miss my guess the 'C' models are ported??? right??? so you cant shoot limited with it, and as someone said its not production legal, so you are whittling off classes as you go....an open class w/ justthe ported barrel??? thats sort of an 'inbetween' sort of a open gun, but not as effective as some others are...add the comps such as the ones featured in front sight a few months ago??? more money to dump in the project....9mm major??? dont know how it will hold up....ran one for 6 months in a indoor range as a rental and it went 60,000 rds in those 6 months butthat was not major 9mm either....swap to a non-ported barrel and shoot limited????

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 03:13 AM

I was planning on going to a solid barrel as I don't think the ported only gun will run with the guns with real comps. Too bad I epoxied an aluminum Dawson Ice magwell to it, after handling the gun some more, it seems like a brass one would be the way to go.

So I shouldn't lighten the slide then? But it looks cool.........

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 01:14 PM

the gun is already lighter than any SV or STI outthere for recoil managements sake i wouldnt, then again my limited gun is a fairly heavy Limcat custom w/ a tungston sleeve aroundthe barrel

and your right about comping it out and tryingto run in open w it, as an example, how many open glocks do you see in the top 16 at the nationals???? now before i get bashed as a Glock hater, I'm not, i own several, but I think in this case they are better served in other classes, ive seen them OWN production in a lot of states(dare i have to mention Mr. sevegny???sp) drop a solid barrel in it and go play in limited or limited-10

as forthe epoxy job on the magwell, if you are having second thoughts on it, a while back I recall that Glock was letting people who got carried away with their dremels on the grips to buy a new grip from Glock, have to send it to em, and they take the lil serial number tab out of it and put it on a new frame....cost was minimal as i recall...

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 01:23 PM

View Postganderman, on Oct 7 2009, 06:13 AM, said:

I was planning on going to a solid barrel as I don't think the ported only gun will run with the guns with real comps. Too bad I epoxied an aluminum Dawson Ice magwell to it, after handling the gun some more, it seems like a brass one would be the way to go.

So I shouldn't lighten the slide then? But it looks cool.........

ganderman

Having cracked a slide on a second generation 34, and gotten it replaced by Glock free of charge, I wouldn't be lightening a 24.....

Then again my 24 runs reliably, so I'm not monkeying with it.....
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 03:08 PM

So not to beat a dead horse or anything. Why do all of the limIted and open guys lighten their slides?

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:38 PM

The open guys with Glocks may be doing it to get the gun cycle reliably. Around here, I see maybe one in ten Glocks with lightened slides in Limited division....

Now, if we're talking 1911/2011s, then we're talking different animal altogether....
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