[bkeeler]

Here is is a video from my practice session on 9/26/09 I would like everyone to critique.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=uEdWfBcuNvo



Thanks,

BK

[CHA-LEE]

What’s up with the support hand chest pat before gripping the gun? If you used the same time to move your support hand more towards the gun you could start building your grip lower in the draw and it would be totally ready to rumble once the gun is fully presented on the target.

Nice transition body movement made with your knees.

Reload is nice and high but could be more aggressive with getting your support hand to the mag and getting the mag up to the gun. If you watch the GM’s do their mag changes their support hand explodes down to the mag and back up very aggressively.

What are these practice strings really teaching you? How often do you stand and blast with a static reload during a stage run? Other than a classifier of course. If I was practicing with that target layout I would have two boxes and perform the reload between the boxes. That way you get more practice with reloading on the move as this is what you will do 90% of the time during a stage run. You also get better practice on how you break down your stance and rebuild it in the next box. WAY more can be learned/perfected by adding box to box movement to that drill.

Make every live fire practice round count towards real stage based conditions.

[bkeeler]

Thanks for the input.

I also do a box to box drill I usually only pick 1 or 2 drills for my practice sessions depending on what I want to work on. This session I used this drill to work on the different types of focus I needed for the different distances with the targets. Also prepping trigger, finding the target spot,stopping the gun on each target and following through. The proper firing cycle which can be found here:http://www.shooting-...nce.com/75.html

Here is the box to box drill that I do, I do this drill with and without the reload.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=channel

Thanks Again,

BK

This post has been edited by bkeeler: 28 September 2009 - 10:47 AM

[bkeeler]

CHA-LEE

I am going to use your suggestion on the above drill and place another box about 4' from the other box and do a reload between boxes. My goal before I added another box on this drill was to get 90% A hits in less than 6 seconds.

Thanks again for the input.

BK

[mike4045]

Not sure but it looks like you cupped the mag on the second run. Looked like you didn't pull it clean to start with.

I practice standing reloads. I will do them between positions. Same as suggested before.

[CHA-LEE]

bkeeler> I believe that movement and multitasking while moving (Shooting, Reloading, etc) is where anyone can save a tremendous amount of stage time. Too many people get wrapped around the axel on trying to cut a tenth or two of their static draw or reload when they are losing whole seconds in their movment skills. I don't know about you, but I would rather practice on ways to save seconds, not tenths of a second, on my stage runs. At least where I am right now in my shooting skills. When I am losing stages by sub second times against GM's then I will focus on the tenths. Until then I am going to work on the low hanging fruit.

[bkeeler]

CHA-LEE, on Sep 28 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

bkeeler> I believe that movement and multitasking while moving (Shooting, Reloading, etc) is where anyone can save a tremendous amount of stage time. Too many people get wrapped around the axel on trying to cut a tenth or two of their static draw or reload when they are losing whole seconds in their movment skills. I don't know about you, but I would rather practice on ways to save seconds, not tenths of a second, on my stage runs. At least where I am right now in my shooting skills. When I am losing stages by sub second times against GM's then I will focus on the tenths. Until then I am going to work on the low hanging fruit.

I agree but the drill I was doing really is not about cutting tenth off the draw or reload (but since I had the video I thought maybe I was missing something that others maybe could pick up from the video) it was about different types of focus on different distance targets. Learning what I need to see on various shots to make the hits changing focus from near to far and far to near. The draw and reload are a distraction from doing this is why I do them in the drill. The point of the drill was to call my shots and see what I needed to see on each shot. I have other drills I do that are related to shooting on the move,entering exiting positions..........

BK

This post has been edited by bkeeler: 29 September 2009 - 06:53 AM

[CHA-LEE]

If you really want to practice your near to far, far to near shooting don’t always use all open targets. A good brain teaser is to start with open targets, to get some base string times. Runs with all A’s are the only ones that count. Then add a no shoot to the targets one at a time blocking the target up to the A-zone and then repeat the string of fire. Keep inching the no shoots up more and more until it starts to affect your shooting speed or pushes your shots away from the no shoot out of the A scoring zone. That is where the real learning begins. If you are truly aiming for and calling A zone shots, then your time and hits should be the same with no shoots on the targets or not.

[Pierruiggi]

CHA-LEE, on Sep 29 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

If you are truly aiming for and calling A zone shots, then your time and hits should be the same with no shoots on the targets or not.

Good stuff. I'll give it a try on my next practice session and see if the presence of a No-Shoot changes the way I engage a target.
Thanks!


EDIT: Sorry bk, I think your shooting is really good, but I feel inadequate to offer a useful critique to you.

This post has been edited by Pierruiggi: 04 October 2009 - 05:06 PM

[Field]

damn i really need to buy one of those timers

[Flyin40]

bkeeler, on Sep 28 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

Here is is a video from my practice session on 9/26/09 I would like everyone to critique.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=uEdWfBcuNvo



Thanks,

BK

Looks pretty good. Don't slap the chest, it should be around the stomach or just above the belt. Its a whole different feel when you get your weak hand on the gun just above the belt. This is a feeling thing so there is no 1 way to do it. Find the spot you like. One thing to think about when trying to find that spot is the feeling you get when you get your weak hand on the gun sooner. You can use it to help drive the gun to the target. I like it getting on the gun as soon as possible.

Your reloads look like they are 2 stages, especially the first one. There is a pause right before you reload. It needs to be one fluid movement. Don't be afraid to slam that mag in there. The second run was smoother but still a slight pause.

I know your not working on those things, your more interested in what your are seeing but for that its nearly impossible to anyone to tell you anything because only you saw what you saw.

How did your transitions feel?? It looks like you could snap the gun harder to each target also. How far are the targets?? I'm a firm believer that after you finish a shot you snap your eyes to the next target spot and its your job to get the gun where your eyes are looking. One drill I do is set up 3 or 4 close targets, can be from 3yds to 7yds. I pull the trigger no matter where the gun is, even if it isn't on the target yet. I snap my eyes to the target spot and pull the trigger no matter where the gun is. What this does is force you to get the gun over. At first I used just an index when shooting just paying attention to what I was seeing. After some time if your paying attention you will start picking the sight up on every shot. The drill is difficult because you can get caught up with the speed. Its a drill on snapping the gun and visual awareness and index. This drill is great because once you become pretty good at it you will trust yourself. No matter where your looking your gun will go there.


You look pretty solid, keep it up.

Flyin

[Flyin40]

bkeeler, on Sep 28 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Thanks for the input.

I also do a box to box drill I usually only pick 1 or 2 drills for my practice sessions depending on what I want to work on. This session I used this drill to work on the different types of focus I needed for the different distances with the targets. Also prepping trigger, finding the target spot,stopping the gun on each target and following through. The proper firing cycle which can be found here:http://www.shooting-...nce.com/75.html

Here is the box to box drill that I do, I do this drill with and without the reload.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=channel

Thanks Again,

BK

1st box, nice and smooth. You slowed down, dropped lower and stepped in. Nice.

2ND box, you left nice but your entry was not smooth. You stepped in with your outside leg and came to an abrupt stop. I would guess that you had a low C on your first shot. Watch how your muzzle bounces coming into that position.

3rd box Like the first it was smooth. You lowered alittle and used your inside left(crossover) leg to step into the box then you brought your outside leg in. This let you be 100x's smoother than the second box. Take a look at your muzzle in that 3rd box. It didn't dip when you came in.

Overall your movements are pretty solid. Don't be afraid to double the distance on those boxes. This allows you to pick up more speed and then your technique entering those positions must be better or you will feel out of control and not stable shooting when coming into those boxes.


Looks really good, keep it up.


Flyin