[hueycrew]

I'm back into Glocks (again)

My G35 shoots very well. Has what looks like factory night sights, a stock 5.5 lb trigger, and one issue that popped up on my first visit to the range.

Mags will not drop free when the gun goes into slide lock after the last round is fired. Sometimes the slide will not lock back after the last round. On investigation I found the slide stop lever, where it contacts the follower in the magazine, had moved past the contact point (slid down the side) and was stuck/jammed against the follower. I removed the slide to see this.

I don't have another glock to compare the engagement of the lever on the follower. The slide stop lever feels kinda sloppy to me. Contact between the lever and the mag follower is positive with the slide removed, with the slide installed the contact is less positive.

I cannot replicate the problem by cycling manually. Only occurs after the last round is fired and mag is empty.

Mags are all newer production and lightly used. Glock factory mags only.

I don't think the lever is worn out but..... Part number on the lever is 7482

Any ideas?

[Jadeslade]

It's supposed to look like this . I would replace the slide stop lever with a stock one (not the extended or tactical one), and make sure the spring on it is under the locking block pin. It may have gotten bent. It should filp up and down easily when in correctly. Hope this helps.

[hueycrew]

I think I see a difference. In my photo I've put some chalk on the tab where it contacts the follower. The tab is just barely on the follower. So perhaps in the action of locking the slide back and the follower pushing up maybe it is forcing the follower past the tab on the lever. hmmm

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[SA Friday]

hueycrew, on Sep 25 2009, 10:37 AM, said:

I think I see a difference. In my photo I've put some chalk on the tab where it contacts the follower. The tab is just barely on the follower. So perhaps in the action of locking the slide back and the follower pushing up maybe it is forcing the follower past the tab on the lever. hmmm

Dude, that doesn't look right. Can you take the slide off and take another pic in focus without the chalk?

Did you buy this new or used? Did you change from an extended lever to a std lever? That one almost looks like someone took a file to it and reformed the tab.

[hueycrew]

Getting closer. Thanks for the replies. Bought used. MFG in early 2002

Appears follower #8, in my newer magazine does not have what I would consider positive contact if I compare with follower #5. Follower 5 is in an LEO marked highcap magazine that came with the gun.

So is it a follower issue or slide stop lever? I don't see any evidence that would suggest a modification. To me it looks even worse with the slide locked open putting pressure on the slide stop.

Slide lock looks cocked to one side with follower 8

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This post has been edited by hueycrew: 25 September 2009 - 02:47 PM

[Jman]

Your definitely not making enough contact. Swap to a regular slide stop.

Jim

[SA Friday]

It kinda looks like the slide stop lever has been bent out a bit on the outside. On the second pic here is a lot of space between the receiver and outer portion of the slide stop lever. I think I would change it and see if that stops the lever from floating outward. Bending it might work too, but it's a fairly inexpensive part to change. I don't think it's a mag follower issue. It looks like they are hitting the lever a little different and so you are seeing the problem more with one than the other.

[hueycrew]

Should there be some fore and aft play in the lever itself? It feels pretty sloppy/loose at the pivot point. I think I will order a standard slide stop and go from there. Other than this the pistol functions perfect.

Thanks for the help.

Joe

[Jadeslade]

9mm LE mags, like original 80s vintage maga do not drop free-at least the ones I have don't. I think that was by design. I don't have any new .40 LE mags.

This post has been edited by Jadeslade: 25 September 2009 - 04:35 PM

[Duane Thomas]

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I would replace the slide stop lever with a stock one (not the extended or tactical one)

Tactical one? That's the first I've heard of that.

[Duane Thomas]

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Bending it might work too

Actually in my experience the factory Glock slide stops are very hard, brittle parts. You try bending them and they'll crack before they bend. Replacement is the way to go.

[Duane Thomas]

What strikes me, looking at the photos, is the amount of apparent damage at the rear of the slide stop where the slide stop notch is hitting it. Is is possible the slide stop is not always catching as it should because the necessary contact point has become rounded off?

[Duane Thomas]

Bottom line, just look at this as a God-given excuse to dump that dorky extended slide stop and replace it with the low profile unit off a Glock 22.

[Jadeslade]

I forgot to add-the reasons the mags don't drop is that they are a little fat-nothing to do with slide stop or follower. I have a friend's who "muck gun"-backup G35 -started to not drop mags well about a month ago. He cleaned in really well, cleaned all the mags, trimmed the little burrs of the mag catch area on the sides of the mags and it's better now. +1 to changing out the slide stop. They do shoot well, don't they?


edited cause I'm typing left handed.

This post has been edited by Jadeslade: 25 September 2009 - 05:05 PM

[Duane Thomas]

How come?

[Jadeslade]

Right hand is killing me. Too much mouse work this week. Didn't hurt at range today, but it does now.

[Duane Thomas]

Ouch!

[Jadeslade]

Thanks. Icing it now.

[Duane Thomas]

Ice is a goodness. As my knee, rotator cuff, elbow and back could tell you.

[Jadeslade]

Definitely lay off the Rob Romero Reload then ice is the best pain medicine except for aspirin. I am very curious to find out what's up with hueycrew's G35.

[hueycrew]

I'm pretty curious what is up with my G35. I never would have thought a magazine that would not drop free could be caused by a slide stop. I must have shot 50 rounds three at a time until I caught on what was happening. Slide stop tab was forced past the correct contact point, just enough to keep the mag from dropping free. After about the fifth time it happened I was convinced.

I'll order a replacement tomorrow. I'd like to improve the trigger some too. Not a tinkerer, just like a lower trigger pull. Reset and takeup are fine as is. I want to use all stock parts if possible. More research.

The factory night sights are nice however, they will not work for my purposes. Saw a set of sights, Warren rear and a FO front at Dawson Precision. Another gun for USPSA.

[JohnGaultsGun]

You may want to remove and inspect your mag release button and/or mag release spring. If you had a non-OEM slide stop, it's not a stretch to find other parts may be non-OEM as well. Those parts are cheap and easily replaced.

[hueycrew]

Got my parts yesterday. I replaced the slide stop lever. What a difference. No slop. The extended stop appears to be bent. Like it was caught on something and pulled out of shape. It is an LEO trade in so I can almost see that happening. The new lever fits much better. I didn't get the extended lever on advice from the group here.

I replaced the connector. The connecter had a + symbol. I put a Lone Wolf 3.5 in its place.

Setting up a USPSA match today so I'll give it a try.

Thanks again for the help.

Joe

[Lost River]

hueycrew, on Oct 3 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

Got my parts yesterday. I replaced the slide stop lever. What a difference. No slop. The extended stop appears to be bent. Like it was caught on something and pulled out of shape. It is an LEO trade in so I can almost see that happening. The new lever fits much better. I didn't get the extended lever on advice from the group here.

I replaced the connector. The connecter had a + symbol. I put a Lone Wolf 3.5 in its place.

Setting up a USPSA match today so I'll give it a try.

Thanks again for the help.

Joe

Curious to know if it solves the problem.

[hueycrew]

Range report: Went through 8 mags with three rounds each. Worked perfect. Slide lock every time and mags dropped free. It was the slide stop lever.

Like I posted earlier, the old one looked bent to me. The bend angles looked wrong and the lever was bowed.

Everything else looks stock to me so I left it as is.

Trigger pull is much different with the 3.5 connector.