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1050 Toolhead return spring and effect on powder measure

#1 User is offline   smh 

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:45 AM

I have a Dillon super 1050 with which I've loaded 140,000 rounds plus of 45acp in the last 3 to 4 years. In the last six months the powder measure started to dump Clays very inconsistently, which it didn't prior to that time. Anywhere from 4 or 5 round per hundred would be undercharged with powder so that firing the round wouldn't fully cycle the slide and the bullet impact at 50 yards was about a foot too low. Around the same time, the operating handle stopped returning to the full upright position, but was ignored as I figured what difference does that make? A few weeks ago, the handle completely jammed when one broken end of the tool head return spring telescoped inside the other, jamming it in the spring tube. After a certain amount of flailing around the problem was spotted and the spring replaced, thankfully a spare was handy.

Now the handle stays up by itself, and the magically the powder measure problem with clays went away. Not sure why this happens, but if you powder measure becomes suddenly inconsistent, you might want to check the tool head return spring.

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:25 PM

Good info - :cheers:
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 02:19 PM

It's probably because, when the handle doesn't return all the way, neither does the Powder Bar in the Powder Measure.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 07:54 AM

I have found that the toolhead spring starts to take a set after 7,000 rounds & progressively gets worse. You will know as your handle will not stay up on its own & will continue to keep falling as the spring gets shorter & shorter. I Just keep spare springs on hand.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:26 PM

Here's my TH after 2,000 rounds. I'll have to check the return spring.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:49 PM

Hey, guys....
I dont want to be an alarmist, but I have RLs with over 100k a piece easy on them with one having over 50K easy on this spring. No problem at all with the handle not returning, especially like the photo.
I think a call to Dillon is in order, as that shouldnt be happening.....and I have friends with Supers with 10s of thousands of rounds and no problem like that seen.
I will be interested to hear what they say.....

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 07:06 PM

For me, I'd replace that spring every year or two (40,000 - 80,000 rounds) as the spring would tend to settle a bit.
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 07:14 PM

View PostDougCarden, on Dec 14 2009, 12:49 PM, said:

Hey, guys....
I dont want to be an alarmist, but I have RLs with over 100k a piece easy on them with one having over 50K easy on this spring. No problem at all with the handle not returning, especially like the photo.
I think a call to Dillon is in order, as that shouldnt be happening.....and I have friends with Supers with 10s of thousands of rounds and no problem like that seen.
I will be interested to hear what they say.....

DougC

I'm with Doug. The most I've put on a single 1050 is probably 10K rounds but the spring is still very strong.

I'd check and make sure there isn't something else going on. It shouldn't do that at 2K rounds.
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 01:24 PM

The toolhead spring supports the weight of the entire toolhead! After loading 7,000 - 10,000 rounds, just remove the old spring and compare the overall length to a new spring. You will be surprized!! It will on average be 1/2 inch shorter than a new one. That makes a huge differance on supporting the weight of the toolhead.

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