Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!: Which gun to start with, and eyes - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Which gun to start with, and eyes

#1 User is offline   Ohioguy 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 86
  • Joined: 23-August 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Medina, OH

Posted 12 September 2009 - 03:28 PM

Couple of questions for the experienced shooters.

99% of my shooting has been plinking. I am always trying to improve, but quite honestly, I have never really read about, or watched videos on how to shoot right. I am to the point now though that I want to practice right, and do right. My question is which gun to start with.

I purchased a new S&W 625-8. I bought it for two reasons. One is to compete with a revo, and the other is simply I wanted one. I have a Glock 17 that I have been using in IDPA, box stock. I truly like both guns, and enjoy shooting both. Being two different styles of handguns, I and am wondering if I should start with a specific one. Ultimately, I would like to see me shooting the revo in competition.AS of now though, I am more comfortable with the Glock, since I have been shooting it longer, and more familiar. Would starting with the Glock and relearning how to shoot carry over to the revo down the line? Or should I simply concentrate on the revo out of the box? I am sure there are several of you who went from autos to revo's, so I would like to hear your experiences.

The next question refers to eyesight. I have been wearing glassed for the last several years. I wore contacts for a time, but was tired of the issues I had with them. I am now back to contacts as of today. I discussed my shooting with the doctor, and I believe he understands what improvements I am looking for. WIth the glassed I was wearing, I simply could not see the front sight clearly on any of the guns I have been shooting. With the new contacts I have in now, there needs to be some tweaking (which the dr. said we may need to do), as things aren't as clear as I think they should be. Maybe my eyes are tired-we'll see if things improve tomorrow.

Currently I shoot with the left eye closed. I am right handed and right eye dominant. My understanding is I need to shoot with both eyes open. I have an astigmatism in my left eye that does affect my vision that has been very difficult to fix apparently, as I still see the affects of it in my everyday vision. Can anyone give me input with vision problems? Any suggestions that I can discuss with my doc?
Aaron Smith
A-66329, as of 09/09/09

#2 User is offline   dapribek 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 55
  • Joined: 14-March 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Amherst, NY

Posted 12 September 2009 - 03:49 PM

I solved a similar eyesight problem by doing the following: I had a pair of glasses made that has the right lens set up for reading a computer monitor (arms length away, not reading a book distance which is closer). My left lens is set up for distance. I put the glasses on a half hour before I shoot and my brain adapts to them. Now when I look through them the front sight is clear and I can still see the target in the distance. Hope this helps.

#3 User is offline   Wideload 

  • Sees Target
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 219
  • Joined: 11-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lenexa, Kansas

Posted 12 September 2009 - 05:46 PM

Misread your original post... You were not referring to cross eye dominance issue and as already suggested....Rx solutions mentioned may be what you need... (deleted the irrelevant section)

As to shooting that round gun, just start and ignore comments about sundials from your squad.

Revos are incredibly well suited for dry fire and you can get quality practice time that way.

Also moonclip some dummies loads and run some quality reload practices at home as well.

This post has been edited by Wideload: 12 September 2009 - 09:15 PM

Getting older by the day and definitely fat. Maybe that explains why I am not getting any faster...

#4 User is online   atbarr 

  • Calls Shots
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 738
  • Joined: 01-May 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nicholasville, KY

Posted 12 September 2009 - 06:02 PM

My shooting glasses focal length is my front sight. The targets, even at 25 yds are not that blurry.

A.T.
Age, skill, wisdom and a little treachery always overcomes youth and arrogance!

#5 User is offline   Duane Thomas 

  • Story Teller
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Moderators
  • Posts: 10,598
  • Joined: 02-May 01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tacoma, WA

Posted 12 September 2009 - 07:22 PM

When I was having my glasses scrip redone, I was lucky enough to find an optometrist who was also a shooter. I asked him if I could bring my gun into his office and set up the scrip's focal length for my front sight when I was in my firing stance. He said, "Sure."
Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
- Sam

Amateurs do it til they get it right. Professionals do it til they can't get it wrong.

"It's not the will to win that matters - everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters."
- Paul "Bear" Bryant

"The only reason why Everest is the highest mountain ever climbed is because it's the highest. If there was one higher, I bet there'd be people trying to climb it."
- Jack Barnes

#6 User is offline   chirpy 

  • Calls Shots
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 702
  • Joined: 03-January 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ravenna, OH

Posted 13 September 2009 - 05:17 AM

Ohioguy,

Maybe someone can direct you to shooting videos which will help you decide what you want to practice and then look for them in the "Classifieds". Go to the Revo thread and they will tell you "SHOOT THE REVO!"...Go to the Glock thread and they will tell you "SHOOT THE GLOCK!" Transitioning shouldn't be difficult grip/presentation wise because of the grip angle. Trying to figure out your reloads can be a B...h with the revo but a lot of fun. It might take a full season shooting only the Glock/revo to decide which you like best. Both have their places and both are fun. Sounds like dapribek has a good idea for him which I might try. I would discuss similar contacts with your Dr.

JMHO

Richard

#7 User is offline   open17 

  • Beyond it All
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 1,042
  • Joined: 04-August 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amity, Oregon

Posted 13 September 2009 - 07:58 AM

View Postdapribek, on Sep 12 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

I solved a similar eyesight problem by doing the following: I had a pair of glasses made that has the right lens set up for reading a computer monitor (arms length away, not reading a book distance which is closer). My left lens is set up for distance. I put the glasses on a half hour before I shoot and my brain adapts to them. Now when I look through them the front sight is clear and I can still see the target in the distance. Hope this helps.


+1! They call it "monovision". I'm cross-dominant, so my left eye is front sight focus and the right is distance. Takes
me about 20 minutes to adapt. Pushing 60 years old, and without the new glasses I probably wouldn't shoot iron sights much. Mine are Rx inserts in a pair of Bolle' Vigilantes.

What to shoot? I started with a 1911 in L10, went to Glocks in Production, Limited and Open, run a 625 in Revo.
Lately I've been spending most of my time back where I started--a 1911 in Single Stack.

IT'S ALL GOOD. Pick one and go for it. Get a few matches behind you, don't go buying a bunch of gear until you
figure out what you really need, ask a lot of questions, be safe and have FUN. :cheers:
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. the supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

TY46179 CRO

#8 User is offline   Ohioguy 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 86
  • Joined: 23-August 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Medina, OH

Posted 13 September 2009 - 08:23 AM

I am going to give my eyes a chance to adjust to the new contacts for a couple days, and see if anything changes.

I was sent a pm about 'taping' that I might try first. Its definitely a cheap fix, but something I think I should try before investing more money into specific shooting glasses.

The monovision suggestion makes sense though. If the taping doesn't seem to improve things, then I will look into that option.

As far as the revo/glock, I have everything I need for competing with the glock currently, so I am going to start out with that. I am going to make a few inquiries as to revo equipment, collect those items over the winter, and start next season fresh.

Thanks for the tips- I greatly appreciate it.
Aaron Smith
A-66329, as of 09/09/09

#9 User is offline   gfmun 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 77
  • Joined: 25-March 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Granbury, Texas

Posted 17 September 2009 - 05:54 AM

I tried the " mono vision " a couple of times. Once with contacts, which I could not wear. I went nuts trying to drive, read signs, etc. Then I had a set of shooting glasses made with the right lens set for the front sight. Worked really great for indoor close targets, but past 15 yards the target was really blurry. I have been using a red fiber optic front sight which helps. I hope you find something and I will monitor the thread and see if I can pick up some ideas for me also.

thanks and good luck,
George

This post has been edited by gfmun: 17 September 2009 - 05:55 AM

My goal in life is to be the Man my dog thinks I am.

#10 User is offline   Houngan 

  • Beaver Nub
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 1,089
  • Joined: 16-June 04
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Louisville, KY

Posted 24 September 2009 - 06:44 PM

Back to guns, I don't find it particularly restrictive to shoot either, as far as ability goes. There is a difference in approach in the divisions, as Revolver division requires quite a bit more caution, but the vast majority of skills (reload excepted) translate.

For what it's worth, Revolver is more fun for me.

H.

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users