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shotgun reload times, open, mag fed, tac auto and pump

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:49 PM

I'm wanting to know times for comparison to each other????

Start: port arms, loaded with 2 rounds in the gun.
On signal fire one and hit popper, reload and fire one at another popper distance to popper 15ydsish. here is the deal I'm trying ot figure out how many rounds the hand loaders would have to reload to be competitive with the Open and mag fed guys.

So I figure Open reloads a tube, mag fed a mag, and the hand job folks load 3. If I'm right or can get a close time for each then we may have a after match shoot off with all comers shooting together heads up.

so if you're looking for a reload drill to try give it a shot and get me some data.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:55 PM

So do I count the one I throw over my shoulder or not....? :mellow:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:09 PM

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:30 PM

2.65 shot to shot for 4, best....average around 2.83 shot to shot for 4
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:56 PM

so with reaction time to the buzzer about .6 or .7?????????

thats 3.2 to 3.5ish, for 4.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:33 PM

ill try that this evening.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 06:38 PM

So I figure Open reloads a tube, mag fed a mag, and the hand job folks load 3. If I'm right or can get a close time for each then we may have a after match shoot off with all comers shooting together heads up.


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 06:43 PM

Took a box of shells to the range this evening.

Best time for shot, reload three, shot, was 3.63. First shot .90, 2.73 for the shot to shot.

All the other times I reloaded 4, and most of my times were mid to low 4's. 4.3 average.

I did this from outdoor ready. And I actually aimed the shots.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 06:54 PM

Outdoor ready?
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 07:35 PM

Cool thanks Mike, I just need to get some open and box mag guys to try it. I was shooting and loading 4 last night, after seeing a youtube video of a UK buddy doing a drill, he managed 3.54secs with a pump which is pretty spiffy, I mananged a few in the same range but more than one little fumble and you were over 4secs.

I plan on working on this myself this weekend, since all the matches have been cancelled due to rain. It will give Kurt and I something to do next week, when he gets back.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 07:53 PM

Wow, reading these times almost embarrasses me. I did this (from low ready) a couple of weeks ago shooting one of the MGM auto poppers with my Limited M1Benelli. My fastest time was 5.85 from beep to last shot (like I was saying, I suck with a shotgun :roflol: ) with most times being in the 6.0s. The instances that I dropped shells or threw them,etc. I just stopped and started over. I have just started practicing the weak hand reload.
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Edited to replace shot to shot with beep to last shot (my posting skills sometimes suck also).

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:14 PM

I tried it with my M1 and M2. Just under 4 for all runs, fastest in 3.6 secs. I also loaded to 8 in 7.2 secs. A personal best.

Should get in alot of shotgun practice this weekend. I think all area matches are canceled due to rain. Maybe shoot some slugs out to 100 yds.


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:20 PM

NO, Trapr, those times are from the beep to the last shot, I guess I am fast at "hand jobs" :roflol:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:55 PM

Average practiced shooter, about 4 for 4 or 8 for 8 ..

But not at an actual match !! :lol:



Then I found this dude on the internet, he's fast .. :P Was'nt his name Kerry or something ?? :roflol:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 10:07 PM

View PostJadeslade, on Sep 11 2009, 08:54 PM, said:

Outdoor ready?


a modified port arms;
muzzle up, always in line with your line of
vision. Buttstock at belt level, along your strong side.

you others, correct me if Im wrong.
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Posted 12 September 2009 - 12:55 AM

no times listed but check out this reload
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=2GpMvj-v3_w

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 06:25 AM

the first hand job one is Gort!!!! the second one is interesting given the hand job to hold the mag in on the last mag.

Kurt, I read your post as shot to shot, not from the timer?????????Sorry.

Here is mr Holloway from the UK, http://www.youtube.c...h?v=A6rqF8-4yuA

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 11:32 AM

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a modified port arms;
muzzle up, always in line with your line of
vision. Buttstock at belt level, along your strong side.

Thanks. Like a start position on a stage. I am going to the range this PM and check this out. Been practicing-but at home, need to see if I can repeat with real shells.
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Posted 12 September 2009 - 01:14 PM

View Postbigbrowndog, on Sep 12 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

Here is mr Holloway from the UK, http://www.youtube.c...h?v=A6rqF8-4yuA
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:surprise: Very Nice !! + a pump in there !!
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 11:30 AM

Trapr,

Average of 8 runs including my slow reaction time. To load three and fire two. 3.11 sec

Average of 5 runs to load 8 shells, 6.18 sec

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 11:54 AM

We did this a couple years ago when I shot open. I didn't care about the reaction time but the shot to shot time to reload 4 was .86

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:17 PM

Carl, those are hand job times right???

I need some times from Box Mag guys and Open tube stuffers
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:44 PM

Keith did it in 2.91 from the buzzer, .23 first shot and 2.68 split.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:43 AM

Trapr,

Yes, ( Hand job) times are with a stock M2 taking 4 shells at a time from the belt. I have some single fastest time runs but I assume you are after an average run.

I'll ask my Saiga buddies to check their times too. I know RJ is getting comfortable with mag changes on his.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:59 AM

thanks Carl, I thought I'd get more info from the open and box mag guys, since they are soooooooooooooooooooooooooo fast. :roflol: maybe they're outrunning the timer!!!! :rolleyes:

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