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#1 User is offline   dnuke146 

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 12:01 PM

So I saw in the National stages, which are now up btw, they had several "Max Turner's" How are these diff. than the usual turners... anyone have any pictures or better yet video of how these operate.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 12:15 PM

never heard of it. max trap, yes...
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 12:56 PM

I'm wondering as well. The WSB says they remain visible. Maybe they turn to face you, turn away, and then turn back again.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 01:29 PM

it's a disappearing target with springs to change the speed of exposure.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 01:40 PM

View Postlynn jones, on Aug 21 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

it's a disappearing target with springs to change the speed of exposure.

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you sure about that? the nationals stage description on the stages that have the max turner state "all activated targets remain visible"
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:01 PM

My Max Turner does not stay visible if set correctly.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:04 PM

View PostDan Burwell, on Aug 21 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

View Postlynn jones, on Aug 21 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

it's a disappearing target with springs to change the speed of exposure.

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you sure about that? the nationals stage description on the stages that have the max turner state "all activated targets remain visible"


I'm scratching my head a little on that one, too. I thought the whole point of a turner (or a clamshell, which also look to remain visible according to the descriptions) was to give you a small window of time to shoot it. If they remain visible, seems like you'd just wait til it stopped turning.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:10 PM

View Postbbbean, on Aug 21 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

View PostDan Burwell, on Aug 21 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

View Postlynn jones, on Aug 21 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

it's a disappearing target with springs to change the speed of exposure.

lynn

you sure about that? the nationals stage description on the stages that have the max turner state "all activated targets remain visible"


I'm scratching my head a little on that one, too. I thought the whole point of a turner (or a clamshell, which also look to remain visible according to the descriptions) was to give you a small window of time to shoot it. If they remain visible, seems like you'd just wait til it stopped turning.


Most turners, swingers etc add an element of strategy to a stage. There is a delay before the target becomes visible. This allows the shooter to decide what to do, engage other targets, reload, move, take a nap or whatever before shooting the mover. I doubt many will wait until a mover stops moving unless they absolutely have to. I personally will not wait for it to stop turning.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:24 PM

View Postmikegot38, on Aug 21 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

My Max Turner does not stay visible if set correctly.

Do you have any pictures of this device or a link to where you bought it?

I have one of most every target, just for practice and to use at our club matches, so if I am missing something I am going to have to get it.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:27 PM

My guess... it starts hidden, turns to expose, hides again, then turns again with only the head showing behind a no-shoot or some hard cover.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 03:21 PM

this is what i was thinking about:

http://www.gunsteel.com/drop.html

seems they can be set to appear and appear and disappear

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 05:18 PM

"I personally will not wait for it to stop turning."

Chuck, you barely wait for the bullet to leave the barrell! :)

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 07:27 PM

View PostDan Burwell, on Aug 21 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

View Postmikegot38, on Aug 21 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

My Max Turner does not stay visible if set correctly.

Do you have any pictures of this device or a link to where you bought it?

I have one of most every target, just for practice and to use at our club matches, so if I am missing something I am going to have to get it.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 08:28 PM

Here's a hot link:
http://www.gunsteel.com/maxtrap.html
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 08:46 PM

You put a block in the turner so it only falls so far and remains visable. They have had them at nationals before. I had on one my stage a couple years ago at PASA.

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 06:16 AM

OK, cool nothing more than a drop turner that only appears, I can handle that.

The way it was drawn I was worried that it came up like a max-trap but came up twisting or a drop turner that had a no shoot come flying up in front of it while it was turning.

From you all's description and their drawings it looks like they just have a no shoot parked in front of the turner set to appear only, so that shouldn't be too hard but a cool challange to time the shots.

Thanks guys! :cheers:
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