[lrjet]

Thinking about shooting production along with my open pistol next year. Currently thinking a 686--model 14 or M&P Pro. The revo would have a sight radius advantage with 6inches. Can you re-barrel the M&P with a after market drop in barrel? Trigger pull no lighter than 3.5 with a revo that does not apply in single action right? What revo/pistol would you choose?

[Shawn Knight]

If I am able to get in on this next year I am going to shoot my M&P9(4.5).

3.2.1
(g) Trigger weight may not be less than 3.5 lbs. In any mode

[Alan550]

Shawn's correct in his quote of the rule, but if you remove the single-action notch from the hammer, that's legal too. Then all you have to worry about is the double action at >3.5 lbs..............not a problem. That's from the head referee at the Cup this year. I know of at least one gun that was shot there (686) with no single-action notch in it. I'm not sure a replacement barrel would be legal, but others will chime in on that, I'm sure.

Alan~^~

[Allgoodhits]

PRODUCTION does not permit aftermarket barrels. At least that was the case for 2009. I doubt that is likely to change.

MJ

[Action Pistolero]

I'm shooting a 686+. Shooting an auto all the time I am prone to short stroking the trigger and if I get a dud round I can just pull the trigger again.

From what I hear, the trigger pull will be lowered to 2 pounds like the rest of the classes. At Bianchi, they are going to split the Production class so that autos and revolvers will no longer compete against each other.

On the table of contents page in my Shooting Sports USA is a paragraph about the Bianchi Cup article. "Read the play-by-play results and learn about the new production division that allows you to qualify next year for more money than the pros-with a stock pistol". There were no details in the article. From what I have heard, there will be a big cash prize for a first time Cup shooter in Production.

Looks to me like we need to put the Open guns down if we want to get any money out of it. From what I understand, 2nd place in Open this year paid $1000.

[Flexmoney]

Action Pistolero, on Jul 26 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

From what I hear, the trigger pull will be lowered to 2 pounds like the rest of the classes. At Bianchi, they are going to split the Production class so that autos and revolvers will no longer compete against each other.

Interesting.

I hope they get those rules ironed out quick. So shooters can know what to expect. (please keep the forum updated with any news )

[lrjet]

Thx Kevin for the information--looks like I will wait and decide when the new rules come out.

[NRAActionPistol]

Action Pistolero, on Jul 26 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

I'm shooting a 686+. Shooting an auto all the time I am prone to short stroking the trigger and if I get a dud round I can just pull the trigger again.

From what I hear, the trigger pull will be lowered to 2 pounds like the rest of the classes. At Bianchi, they are going to split the Production class so that autos and revolvers will no longer compete against each other.

On the table of contents page in my Shooting Sports USA is a paragraph about the Bianchi Cup article. "Read the play-by-play results and learn about the new production division that allows you to qualify next year for more money than the pros-with a stock pistol". There were no details in the article. From what I have heard, there will be a big cash prize for a first time Cup shooter in Production.

Looks to me like we need to put the Open guns down if we want to get any money out of it. From what I understand, 2nd place in Open this year paid $1000.

All,

I am back from Camp Perry, one more trip for the year to the Steel Challenge 12-17 August. With the election of a new NRA President, comes Committee alignments, we are waiting to hear who will be on the NRA Action Pistol Committee, when we know that we will schedule a committee meeting to discuss the Production Rules and any requests from AP Competitors.

We are in fact promoting the new Production Division for many reasons, all of which has been discussed on here before. 2nd place Open did in fact get $1,000, 2nd place Production got $900.00, but we did in fact pay down to the last Production competitror, that person received $175.00. There is no plan to remove any Division, the only plan is to make the sport grow, having just Open & Metallic Divisions has not worked, and has in fact scared off competitors and sponsors over the years.

We will do what we need to do from here to grow the sport, we hope the local Clubs & Associations will do the same, many of you out there have been waving the Action Pistol flag for many years. WE need record setting attendance locally and Nationally if we want more partisipation and more benefits on any level.

This is NOT a one person gig, I look forward to hearing from anyone that has a viable idea to make this sport and Championship grow.

Tom...

[Flexmoney]

xsniper, on Jul 28 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

Sounds great NRAActionPistol. Where is the best place to find local or area matches. I would be interested in ones in or close to Florida?

xsniper,

I am going to give your question it's own thread.


Moved to this link: http://www.brianenos...showtopic=89333

- Forum Admin.

[Action Pistolero]

Tom,
So, I take it you won't be shooting the State and Regional in Cumberland, MD? Too bad, I was looking forward to show you how it was done in Production.

Just shot the Regional and State matches in Chambersburg, PA a little over a week ago. The sport is growing, they had a real good turnout. I believe the Regional had 41 guns. Seven were Production which is the most that I have seen so far. The entries for the Regional and State matches in Southwest VA are already coming in which is very unusual. The match is the 3rd weekend in Sep and normally they don't start coming in until the middle of August.

This means you only have 2 more chances to make matches. Upstate NY is Labor day weekend and our matches 2 weeks later. Don't make me have to come up there and get you!

I know why the payouts in Open are going down but I have no idea how to fix it. I'm not a marketing person, just a lowly electronics technician. It's just disheartening when some us have worked as hard as we have fighting to get where we are and the compensation keeps going down. When I first started I watched Mickey Fowler sign for a $3500 check for 4th place.

[Shawn Knight]

I have another Production gun question.

Can I use my USPSA Revolver in the Production division? It has no hammer spur(Carmonized) and is not possible for me to use the single action mode when I am shooting but the single action notch is still there. If I work at it I can put the gun into single action mode and it has a pull of about 1lb. Will this gun fit into Production at all?

Also the Rule that says, "© Changes in the original factory sight configuration of the firearm are prohibited. Front adjustable sights are
prohibited." makes it sound like my SDM Fiber Optic front sight will not be allowed either nor will my Millet rear blade. Is this correct?

[Griz]

Shawn Knight, on Sep 9 2009, 05:37 AM, said:

I have another Production gun question.

Can I use my USPSA Revolver in the Production division? It has no hammer spur

No, the hammer spur being cut off is not allowed in Production. You'll have to shoot in Metallic. (BTW, they also don't allow moon clips unless the gun ships from the factory that way, so a stock 625 would be OK, but not a 686 cut for clips).

[Shawn Knight]

Well then I guess it's an M&P9 then! I better get the targets moves out to 50 meters!!