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Slide Unlocking During Reload... Legal?

#1 blind bat

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:55 PM

I was having problems with my CZ's slide locking back prematurely even with a new slide stop spring. I filed some material off the slide stop and put more of a bend in my slide stop spring which seems to have solved the problem (knock on wood). The side effect has been that when I do a fast reload the slide will drop forward. Personally, I think this is a pretty cool feature but I'm afraid it might freak out an RO if it happens during a reload.

Is there any rule against having the slide drop when the mag inserted?

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#2 RobMoore

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 06:01 PM

No, I see plenty of glock owners who forcefully slam their mags in to make this happen.

It is a bad habit to rely on, doesn't really save you any time, and it makes your reloads less smooth than they could be, but no.....its not illegal.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 08:40 PM

The larger Glocks, like the 17 and 34, do this with some regularity. No, it's not illegal. The problem is that if you start to depend on the slide dropping during the load, counting on that saving you having to hit the slide release with your thumb, and then the slide doesn't drop, it tends to short circuit your thought processes for a bit. I train to hit the slide stop no matter what. The slide dropped on its own, fine, lovely. It didn't drop on its own, I'm still backstopped.

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#4 MemphisMechanic

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 08:32 PM

Learn to count on it. Please.

Then you and I can be racing for the top slot at the start of the final stage... You'll reload... and CLICK! The slide dropped without chambering a round. It happens more often than you might think.

The truth is that there is no choice between the two. You line the sights up in the A-zone and let it fly at the absolute soonest moment that you see what your experience tells you will put the hole where you're aiming it using the amount of trigger control you need to keep the gun lined up in that spot. There is no concern about accuracy or speed - either one is an illusion from behind the gun. There's "where do I want to hit" and "is the gun lined up there or not"... followed up with "did the sights lift from where I wanted to hit". To assign an "either/or" to the equation is to deny the fact that the gun can be shot ridiculously fast while shooting all As - but it won't be done while you're determined that one must be sacrificed for the other - and it also has the amusing side effect of pressuring the shooter to ignore "the shooting" in the name of "the speed" - XRe

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 06:22 AM

I have seen a lot of people become so accustomed to their slide closing when they ram in a magazine, that when it doesn't, they whack the floorplate instead of punching the lever or tugging the slide. It usually closes, but not always. And, as M.M. says, it is quite possible for the slide to drop before the magazine is high enough for it to chamber a round.