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Looking for a KSC/KWA Glock 17

#1 User is offline   Pharaoh Bender 

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:05 AM

*sigh* After being a bit snobby about the whole airsoft thing, Duane has convinced me that for the cost of a few thousand bullets I could successfully fortify my dryfire practice with an airsoft routine.

After doing bunches of research here and on other sites, I believe that the KSC/KWA brands are the best in the business. Reliability is a must, as well as a metal slide...two features found in the above mentioned brands.

Now...where the heck does one find a place to buy such a toy?

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:09 AM

I have been looking for one as well. apparently Glocks are in the same container with the Primers. Hot Commodity.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:28 AM

There are one or two on fleebay...though overpriced and/or used :(
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 08:18 AM

Here


If you make an order make one order because shipping will get you. They are really fast, my order came within 3-4 days with the express shipping.


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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:29 AM

^ Flyin the link goes to Facebook.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 11:26 AM

View PostPharaoh Bender, on Jul 10 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

^ Flyin the link goes to Facebook.



LOL, no clue how I mangaged that. Make sure you check out all the guns. There are several companies on the site that has Glock guns

Here


Den


Here is some info on KSC cleaning and maintenance for the G17

Here


Here is a glock already decked out

Decked out Glock

Bunch of custom guns from that Redwolf carries

Redwolf guns


That should keep you busy for awhile

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 01:49 PM

W00t!

Thanks John! Excellent sources of info :)
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 08:20 PM

Have you checked www.airsplat.com ?

They had my G17 when no one else did.

You also want:
The $5 BB speedloader Airsplat sells (trust me, this is worth it's weight in gold)
http://www.airsplat....B-SPDLOADER.htm

Black BBs (can't see, won't keep using as tracer fire instead of the sights)
Propane adapter
second magazine (airsplat's site *said* they were out of stock, but it arrived with everything else)

This post has been edited by MemphisMechanic: 10 July 2009 - 08:24 PM

The truth is that there is no choice between the two. You line the sights up in the A-zone and let it fly at the absolute soonest moment that you see what your experience tells you will put the hole where you're aiming it using the amount of trigger control you need to keep the gun lined up in that spot. There is no concern about accuracy or speed - either one is an illusion from behind the gun. There's "where do I want to hit" and "is the gun lined up there or not"... followed up with "did the sights lift from where I wanted to hit". To assign an "either/or" to the equation is to deny the fact that the gun can be shot ridiculously fast while shooting all As - but it won't be done while you're determined that one must be sacrificed for the other - and it also has the amusing side effect of pressuring the shooter to ignore "the shooting" in the name of "the speed" - XRe

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 02:21 AM

How does the Bell Meister compare with KSC/KWA models?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 02:53 AM

E Hobby Asia seems to have good prices on KSC Glock 34's and 17's, I am thinking about ordering one from there. The only thing that has held me back so far is ordering overseas, I've just never done that.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 04:53 PM

I think I found the right gun for the best price...CLICK ME DARN IT!!!


Now for a very stupid question...what weight bb is optimal? I know that black is the way to go to avoid the "tracer" syndrome...
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 04:57 PM

ETA: is it simply a matter of change in velocity?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:16 PM

View PostPharaoh Bender, on Jul 11 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

I think I found the right gun for the best price...CLICK ME DARN IT!!!


Now for a very stupid question...what weight bb is optimal? I know that black is the way to go to avoid the "tracer" syndrome...

.2 is the one for gas blowback. Buy the green gas-2 cans for 12 gives approx 6K shots, valve is on the can. Have fun. Here's what I got from Airsplat:[attachment=26127:Glock_KS...reen_Gas.jpg] KSC 17 on top. That's my real Glock 17 and Serpa hoster on the lower left-works fine.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:09 PM

View PostPharaoh Bender, on Jul 11 2009, 05:53 PM, said:

I think I found the right gun for the best price...CLICK ME DARN IT!!!


Now for a very stupid question...what weight bb is optimal? I know that black is the way to go to avoid the "tracer" syndrome...



.20 or .25 and black BB's. You won't be able to see them.



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Posted 11 July 2009 - 07:26 PM

View PostBrooks, on Jul 11 2009, 05:53 AM, said:

E Hobby Asia seems to have good prices on KSC Glock 34's and 17's, I am thinking about ordering one from there. The only thing that has held me back so far is ordering overseas, I've just never done that.



I had the same concerns. I placed an order from EHobbyAsia and Airsplat on the same day. Stuff from EHobbyAsia arrived first. Price check including shipping. I found that buying the pistol from EHobbyAsia and all of the accessories from Airsplat was the better deal. I think Airsplat has free shipping over $100.

I got my propane adapter from ShortyUSA.com. It is the all metal version. I second the post about the BB Loader. It is one of the best accessories you can get.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:13 PM

This whole "You need black pellets so you're not distracted by the sight of light colored pellets flying downrange" thing is something that many people tell me happens - and I believe them - that I have never personally experienced. Really, if you're looking at your sights - and you should be - how could you see the pellets flying downrange? I just don't. I have absolutely no problem running white pellets.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:06 PM

Thanks for the input. So the optimum weight of an airsoft pellet is _________?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:28 PM

View Post01G8R, on Jul 11 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

View PostBrooks, on Jul 11 2009, 05:53 AM, said:

E Hobby Asia seems to have good prices on KSC Glock 34's and 17's, I am thinking about ordering one from there. The only thing that has held me back so far is ordering overseas, I've just never done that.



I had the same concerns. I placed an order from EHobbyAsia and Airsplat on the same day. Stuff from EHobbyAsia arrived first. Price check including shipping. I found that buying the pistol from EHobbyAsia and all of the accessories from Airsplat was the better deal. I think Airsplat has free shipping over $100.

I got my propane adapter from ShortyUSA.com. It is the all metal version. I second the post about the BB Loader. It is one of the best accessories you can get.


Thanks for the info. I guess I have to stop being a chicken and order one up.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:20 AM

View PostPharaoh Bender, on Jul 11 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

Thanks for the input. So the optimum weight of an airsoft pellet is _________?



20g or 25g, either one will be fine and get black so you can't see them



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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:26 AM

I think you mean 0.2g.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:24 PM

FYI...

FranDoc had some biodegradable (soy based?) pellets. From what I have seen (not much), they stay together just as well as the plastic BB's.

I just got the broom out and cleaned up the plastic BB's from the other night. No big deal, but we limited the shooting to the garage area.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 01:21 PM

View PostJadeslade, on Jul 12 2009, 11:26 AM, said:

I think you mean 0.2g.



Yep

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:41 AM

Go to airsplat.com for a KSC/KWA Glock 17.

The best bbs you can get are KSC .20g highly polished. They are biodegradable to. The is $11.99 for 4000 on airsplat.
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