Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!: Measuring Production Pistol Weights - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!

Jump to content

New Guidelines for Rules Forum

Due to incessant bickering typical of the Rules Forum, we've (Admin/Moderators) come close to deleting the Rules Forum altogether. (Several times.) We've decided to keep it (by a narrow margin), however, with this stipulation:

No antagonistic tones will be tolerated.

Please post respectfully or don't post at all.

Threads or posts not following this spirit will be locked or deleted, and offenders will be warned or banned from posting.
Please, for the life of the Rules Forum and the constructive input gained from it, participate appropriately.
Thank you,
benos
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Measuring Production Pistol Weights

#1 User is offline   Chris_Andersen 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 62
  • Joined: 16-May 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norman, Oklahoma

Posted 06 July 2009 - 08:57 AM

For rule compliance in production is the gun weighed empty with one magazine?

#2 User is offline   Franklin D Wolverton 

  • Muddy Toes
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 716
  • Joined: 22-June 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Davenport, IA

Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:35 AM

View PostBCA, on Jul 6 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

For rule compliance in production is the gun weighed empty with one magazine?


I e-mailed Amidon about this a couple of months ago (since I didn't know) and he said yes, the weight is with one empty mag.

Frank
Heard this said about me one time about 12 years ago... back when I was one of the lean and mean (I was the head instructor for a unit field exercise).

Young LCpl: "Hey Gunny... how come we're just standing around... we were supposed to start 20 minutes ago?

Company GySgt: "The war doesn't start until Cpl Wolverton's had his coffee."

#3 User is offline   Flexmoney 

  • All Seeing and All Knowing Eye
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 29,681
  • Joined: 02-May 01
  • Location:Ohio (Columbus, McConnelsville)

Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:56 AM

Since this is an USPSA rules question, I moved it to the rules section.

- Admin.
Amber Lamps...bring'um.


Keep our city clean and safe. Do your part.

#4 User is offline   MustangGreg66 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 120
  • Joined: 20-March 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Richmond, CA

Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:54 PM

So instead of starting a new thread along the same lines, let me just add to this one. I'm getting concerned about my G35 weight. I've added adjustable sights and aftermarket SS barrel(not sure if it weights more or not). I got the weight from HERE that it should be, but my question was about the actual limit. Appendix D4, number 18 says, " Maximum weight: Yes, 2 ounces over weight listed on approved pistol list" - 2008 Rulebook PDF

So the weight for my pistol on the list is 27.5oz, D4.18 says up to 2oz over so that means my gun can weight 29.5oz and still qualify for Production division, BUT if it goes to 29.6oz or even 29.51oz (or however precise the scales are) would bump me to open?

This post has been edited by MustangGreg66: 05 November 2009 - 12:55 PM

#5 User is offline   Gary Stevens 

  • Area 5 Director
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 1,397
  • Joined: 24-July 02
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Olive Hill. Kentucky

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:17 PM

A similar analogy is if you go 164.99 power factor you are minor. If you go 124.99 power factor you are shooting for fun. If your gun is noted at 27.50 ounces and it is allowed to weigh two ounces over that, then 29.51 and above would be Open as it stands right now.
Let's face it, our sport is not for everyone. It is sometimes easier to make excuses than it is to make ready.

We are USPSA. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Those who bear no responsibility can always be counted on to find the answer.

#6 User is offline   MustangGreg66 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 120
  • Joined: 20-March 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Richmond, CA

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:23 PM

Cool thanks. I thought I'd heard of it having some margin in the weight, but I guess that's the extra 2oz they state. Perfect. Now to see if I'm legal or not...

#7 User is offline   MustangGreg66 

  • Finally read the FAQs
  • PipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 120
  • Joined: 20-March 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Richmond, CA

Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:58 PM

Just weighed mine in on a really old postal scale, not sure how accurate it really is but I'm getting 28.5oz so I guess I'm good for now, but will have to be careful if I decided to do anymore changes to the pistol.

One thing interesting is that I weighed my mags and the 10rounders varied by 0.02, probably due to some dust in them, the 15round mags weighed 0.1 heavier than my 10 round mags. I wonder which magazine was used for the official weight...

The Glock website claims 24.52 oz, but that's probably without magazine, Though I weight my 10 round magazines at an average of 8.03 oz... doesn't seem to add up here.

#8 User is offline   MoNsTeR 

  • BOO-YAH! Score one for economic science!
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Classified
  • Posts: 1,027
  • Joined: 09-August 03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lakewood, CO

Posted 05 November 2009 - 05:10 PM

The precision of the scale used is a good question, particularly since the rules don't seem to specify. Common kitchen scales only read out to the 1/8 oz, not sure about postal, maybe 1/10 oz? I heard they weighed guns at Nationals this year, what type of scale was used?
Noah Yetter | A50113
SQL> select * from users where clue > 0;
no rows selected
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users