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Is this pistol legal for IDPA? CZ-75 ST IPSC .40 S&W

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:02 PM

The above Topic title and Topic description say it all? Thanks in advance.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:56 PM

View PostThe_Vigilante, on Jul 3 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

The above Topic title and Topic description say it all? Thanks in advance.

The CZ website says it's weighs 2.8 pounds which is past the max weight for SSP and it can't play in ESP due to it's full length metal dustcover. The max weight for SSP is 39 oz which includes an empty magazine.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:01 PM

Thanks-that's what I thought-just wanted confirmation. Guess I'll have to shoot for no score!
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:16 PM

View PostThe_Vigilante, on Jul 3 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Thanks-that's what I thought-just wanted confirmation. Guess I'll have to shoot for no score!

You may want to actually weigh it since factory published weights aren't always reliable.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:06 PM

other factors..gun is single action only and has a full length dustcover.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 01:35 AM

So that would be a "No."
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:54 AM

I am not sure it would even fit in the "box".
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 06:18 AM

View Posteerw, on Jul 3 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

other factors..gun is single action only and has a full length dustcover.

I missed the part in the description where they did away with double action capability. It can't play at all.

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 12:25 PM

Nope.
Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 12:40 PM

View PostGregg K, on Jul 4 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

View Posteerw, on Jul 3 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

other factors..gun is single action only and has a full length dustcover.

I missed the part in the description where they did away with double action capability. It can't play at all.



Come to USPSA.... Your gun can play with us. :cheers:

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 01:23 PM

View PostEricBudd, on Jul 6 2009, 01:40 PM, said:

Come to USPSA.... Your gun can play with us. :cheers:

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:34 PM

The name of the gun? :lol:
Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:35 PM

And now, since (1) the original question has been answered, (2) the handwriting is on the wall that this thread can go nowhere it hasn't already been but into the verboten, and tired (tired, TIRED) old "IPSC vs. IDPA" topic, I think I'll lock this one down.
Pride and fear are emotions, which hope for an outcome. Outcomes take your attention from the present, where the shooting happens, to the future. It is totally impossible to do anything in the future, because it hasn't happened yet. The key to shooting your best is to be present as the witness of the shooting. Do not judge, do not give yourself anything to live up to. We can only shoot as well as we have trained ourselves to shoot. To try to shoot only induces stress. Be content with your current ability. And accumulate practice to improve that ability. Consolidate, build strength where you feel weakness. We cannot raise our ability until we accept our current limitations. Practice dissolves limitations. Matches simply define where the current limits exist. The game of shooting is all about redefining our limits.
- Sam

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