[Dan Burwell]

OK here are most of the stages from the VA/MD sectionals. I finished 5th production second A. I thought I shot a conservative match but still had a couple oops.

I'd like to get some ideas on somethings to work on:
Classifiers, I got my a$$ handed to me on these dogs, but I think I still shot "A" HFs
Stage 1
Stage 2
Field courses: generally got beat on times but mostly made up for it with my points
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 6
Stage 7
Stage 8
Stage 9

Thanks for the help guys.

[SA Friday]

Hey Dan, here's what I saw. (You are better than you were at Summer Blast for sure...)

Stage 1 and 2, you shot way deliberate. It cost you some time. Try pushing your comfort zone for splits and transitions further and further out.

Stage 3, lost time by not taking those two sets of middle PP's on the move and being right there to blast the paper to the right. It cost you a couple of seconds at least.

Stage 4, shot a lot better on the move and came in 2nd.

Stage 6, The first wide transition towards the end, you moved your eyes with the gun. The second wide trans was much faster and you moved your eyes to the target and then the gun.

Stage 7, Awesome stage! Before I even saw the results I knew you smoked it.

Stage 8, Why were you taking deliberate aim at the first two open targets? At that range, blast them and get the hell out of there. Cost you a couple of seconds easily.

Overall, get your reloads up more. Unless you are engaging a low target immediately after the reload, you are spending a lot of time dropping the gun, reloading, then bring the gun back up.

Man, has your movement improved. I think overall if you can push out your comfort level on farther shots and get your splits and transition times faster, you will be able to get in and out of shooting positions faster.

[shooterbenedetto]

Nice footwork and those splits shots sounds about right to hit those A zone!
if you want faster, then call those shots faster.

That classifier can be shot faster.
shoot it left to right-Right hand shooters are usually faster left to right.
then after reload, shoot it Right to left- you can pick up the targets faster
coz nothing is blocking your view!

This post has been edited by shooterbenedetto: 25 June 2009 - 12:51 PM

[Flexmoney]

Is your vision staying on the front sight as you transition between targets (just looking at the classifiers)?

[CHA-LEE]

This is what I see......

Stage 1 – Hard to see much since the RO is in the way and the video starts after the buzzer. For this classifier the GM’s that I have seen burn it down will vary their shooting speed as they run through the string. Basically going faster on the outside targets then slowing down a little in the middle.

Stage 2 – Looks solid. The only thing you can do better is to shoot the strings faster.

Stage 3 – At the starting position you engage what sounds like a string of steel, then do a reload before you really start getting moving. I would have been faster to start moving to the right as you finished up the last piece of steal then start hauling ass to the right then do your reload. As you did it you pretty much did a static reload at the barrels then got moving. In the third and forth shooting positions there is too much standing still. You could have been advancing slowly while engaging targets. Then you engaged the last two steel in the shooting position in a standing position where you could have engaged those as you were advancing forward. At the end of the COF you go left about 5 feet and then come back to the right. Whats up with that? Wasted steps are wasted steps. If you had to get jammed into the final position get there ASAP then engage the targets are you are entering the final position. Also, when you move long distances you really need to dig in and RUN.

Stage 4 – On the first string to the left, it would have been faster you cut deep into the shooting position first then shoot your way out as you back up. Since the last couple of targets in that string were pretty much full and very exposed you could have been a little more sloppy exiting while shooting. Then have the advantage of being 8 – 10 steps closer to the next shooting position. The same goes for the second shooting position. Go in hot and cut deep into the shooting position then shoot the string from left to right as you move out of the shooting position. Its hard to tell the angles of the rest of the targets on the stage but your movement while shooting looked smooth. Why were you backing up as you engaged the last target?

Stage 6 – At the start you shift your feet to get out of the chair. Why not have your feet in the correct position to start off with so all you have to do is dig in and go? In the first shooting position you open the door then pinch yourself in the back corner while shooting the string from right to left, then advance forward to the door threshold. If you engaged the right side targets from left to right you could have been advancing forward as you shot then by the time you were done with the last target on the right you would have been forward already ready to engage the next string of targets. The rest looks pretty solid.

Stage 7 – With all of the zig zagging back and forth there must have been some activators crossing the COF to their activated targets or something like that. Good movement through the stage though. Were you looking for holes in some of the targets? Some of the movement pauses towards the end of the strings looked like you might be confirming hits.

Stage 8 – Why the violent move backwards at the start of the stage. You could have accomplished the same thing by drawing and slowly moving back and to the right to position yourself for the targets on the left all the while moving to the next shooting position. Its hard to tell what is going on with the other shooting positions given the camera angel. One question though, it looked like you engaged a target quite a ways down range then continued the shooting string from left to right as you advanced forward. Was it not an option to quickly advance forward and engage the far right target and then shoot right to left? This might have set you up better for the swing over to the left side of the stage. Like I said though, its hard to tell with the limited view of the video.

Stage 9 – After shooting the activating steel there is at least a 2 second pause of no shooting while you wait for the activated targets. You could have engaged at least one if not two static targets while waiting for the activated targets to come up. The order of the second shooting position is a little strange. You shoot a far right target through the middle section, then swing left to engage the left section targets. Wouldn’t it make more sense to engage the left section targets first then engage the far right target through the middle section as you are moving to the right? As it was you were suck on the left side shooting position waiting to finish up the left section targets. The same goes for the far right section. You could have been backing into the shooting position as you engaged the far left target through the middle section and then shot the right section targets from right to left to finish up. I think you could have shot the stage at least 3 - 4 seconds faster with making these changes in target engagement order and be shooting almost the whole time.

[Dan Burwell]

Flexmoney, on Jun 25 2009, 04:00 PM, said:

Is your vision staying on the front sight as you transition between targets (just looking at the classifiers)?

Naw, SA hit it, I was just being overly cautious on madness then when I tried to pick it up on melody line I got some crap hits.

Shooterbendetio- thanks I transition better R-L based on the timer, so I always shoot R-L when given the portunity on classifiers.

SA, I am really struggling with letting go on those close targets, I just don't trust my index as much as I trust my sights, as result I see my sights on them even though I really don't need to. Anyone with some tips on letting go, it just drives me nuts to eat a charlie on a close target , somehow I need to get past this.

Reloads up higher- Check I will certainly work on this, thanks.

CHA-LEE,
Thanks,
Stage 3 I cut outside so I could shoot as I set-up into position. Everyone that came in straight had to set-up then shoot the 4 targets while flat footed, I got two targets while setting up to take the last two. I also lst my stage plan in the middle there somewhere and got myself very flat footed.

Stage 4 very right I was debating on shooting myself into the corner or shooting myself out. Now looking at it I choose the wrong one. and that last target was well hidden behind the wall so the fastest way was to run turn and shoot as you drifted to a stop rather than turn stop then shoot.

stage 7 you nailed it there was some drop out targets that activeted with steel.

Stage 8 is the one I would really like to have back, I had the wrong thought in my head when the buzzer went off. I for some dumba$$ reason had it in my head the RO was too close and I was going to hit him when I went back as a result I came back and missed my spot, then needed to take an extra shot on the first target putting me into slide lock also caused me to eat a miss ortherwise I would have slide locked again. I am cahlking that stage up tp learning to leave the RO's alone, assume they will get out of my way.

Stage 9 was me playing it safe, there was a 12yd open target I could have taken but based on my timing the target activatio in walk through, I was cutting close for garanteed A's so I played it safe then realized later my minor ammo just didn't knock down the plate as well as the RO's hand in walk through. Lesson learned here as well.

Looks like I really need some help with learing when to attack and when to lay back.

Thanks Guys!

[Flexmoney]

Dan Burwell, on Jun 25 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

SA, I am really struggling with letting go on those close targets, I just don't trust my index as much as I trust my sights, as result I see my sights on them even though I really don't need to. Anyone with some tips on letting go, it just drives me nuts to eat a charlie on a close target , somehow I need to get past this.

You ought to be as faster, or faster, on the close stuff with using your sights.

Vision should free you up.

[Dan Burwell]

Flexmoney, on Jun 25 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

You ought to be as faster, or faster, on the close stuff with using your sights.

Vision should free you up.

So I am doing it right just not fast enough?

I honestly don't really practice the up close hoser stuff, I always figure if I can get my hits at 10-15yds I should be able to get them at 3 yds. But now I am seeing if I want to run with the big guys I need to throw some close ones in the mix.

[CHA-LEE]

The speed governor on the close stuff always comes down to only needing to see what you need to see for each shot and nothing more. For example, if its within 5 yards I know that if I register the gun on the A-zone my index is solid enough that all I have to “See” is a rough outline of the sights to know that my hits will be going where I want them to. You don’t need to “See” a 15 yard sight picture to accurately aim and hit the A-zone of a target when its at 5 Yards. You are “Seeing” too much if you are. Maybe seeing too much is the wrong term. Seeing too long makes more sense in this context.

[SA Friday]

CHA-LEE, on Jun 25 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

The speed governor on the close stuff always comes down to only needing to see what you need to see for each shot and nothing more. For example, if its within 5 yards I know that if I register the gun on the A-zone my index is solid enough that all I have to “See” is a rough outline of the sights to know that my hits will be going where I want them to. You don’t need to “See” a 15 yard sight picture to accurately aim and hit the A-zone of a target when its at 5 Yards. You are “Seeing” too much if you are. Maybe seeing too much is the wrong term. Seeing too long makes more sense in this context.

EXACTLY what I was talking about. It doesn't take a 15yrd sight picture to shoot a target at 3-4 feet. It's 5 points weather you shoot the 'A' in the a zone or you shoot the perf line of the A zone. The amount of time you take to do it determines the hf at that point.

[SA Friday]

Dan Burwell, on Jun 25 2009, 03:31 PM, said:

Flexmoney, on Jun 25 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

You ought to be as faster, or faster, on the close stuff with using your sights.

Vision should free you up.

So I am doing it right just not fast enough?

I honestly don't really practice the up close hoser stuff, I always figure if I can get my hits at 10-15yds I should be able to get them at 3 yds. But now I am seeing if I want to run with the big guys I need to throw some close ones in the mix.

What do you need to see? Test it. Put a target out there at 3-4 feet and take any sight picture you can think of while shooting the target. What do you need to see to get the A's? Then put the shooting on the timer, draw and fire two shots. Take the time and shrink it using the par time setting. See what you can see and still get the A as fast as possible.

[Flexmoney]

After working Area5, I am once again amazed* to watch Dave S. put snake-eye hits into the center of the targets on my stage...while running the stage as faster or faster than anybody else near his level.

But, yeah, Dan...open up the vision and see where it takes you.




[* ...and, I have seen some great shooting in my time.]

[Dan Burwell]

Last year and the begining part of this year I was very focused on accuracy, so much so I have slowed down. Like I said I haven't shot a target in practice under 10yds all year. My matches this year I have been getting much better hits and placing much higher than ever, but I have felt the need to start to pick up my speed, but I have been working it mor eon the 10yd range not the up close stuff. So it looks as thougth I am using the same target focus on my close stuff since that is all I have been practicing.

Thanks, I don't know if I would have ever picked that out. I mean I knew I need to go faster, but looks like I am going to be trying some new stuff.

I am shooting USPSA nationals this year and I don't think I am going to make that long without making master and I really want to look like I deserve the M on the card.