[Boats]

Listened to what Brian said about figuring out what works best for ME cross eye dominant. I migrated over the years from right handed right eye dominant to left eye dominant. This accentuated by Cataract surgery with replacement lens that focus left close and right distance. Have been a competitive rifle shooter for many years and come up with way's to manage the problem. Scope sights use a blinder attched to the scopes bell blocking left eye vison of the target. Iron sights wear one of the funny looking Koniblock shooting glasses prescription right eye blinder left. From years of shooting offhand matches I know well both eyes open for ballance and consistent hold.

Competitive action pistol is fairly new to me, about 18 months, could not even consider it before the cataract surgery. Started with left dominant eye shooting glass lens taped,. Start of the stage I put my right weak eye on the first target, then draw and index the gun briegly under that eye and push it out breaking the shot as the sights are aligned. I did OK but have for some time noticed lack of precesion on small or distant targets. Realy came home when a friend of mine that shoots rifle with me consistently shot better on small targets than I did, and I shoot the rifle a bit better than he does.

Last few weeks fooled with a K frame 6 inch target pistol, 25 yards on a bulls eye target 6 o/clock hold & using my regular IDPA two hand grip but shooting single action, Pistol is very accuraate. Anyway considerably smaller groups using the strong left eye. A lot smaller. So switched my glasses tape to the right weak eye and now working on draw and fire using a cross left eye right hand presentaiton. Felt funny at first but once I swiched my index on the target to my left side it's working OK.

I guess a side benefit is if I ever had to use a pistol for defense would not have taped shooting glasses on and with no glasses the gun comes up naturally Left eye right hand.

Boats

[CocoBolo]

I am cross eye dominant. I started out closing the right eye, this gives limited vision of the stage. I listened to Brian Enos on the Burkett Viedo, it made sense to me, Bring the gun up in front of the left eye. I will say it took me a few months but I bring the gun up in front of the left eye and it works. During the transition I would catch my self switching eyes its not easy to make this change but it is worth the effort. When shooting strong hand only I still close the left eye, but shooting weak hand its both eyes and always better hits. This worked with my open and my limited guns.


It don't work on rifles except with a Bushnell Hollo or an EO tech dot optic. When I shoot a 1x-4x optic its back to closing the left eye, same as Iron sights.

[Boats]

Cocobolo.

For Rifles I think you will find putting a blinder on the Scope blocking your Left dominant eyes view of the target will work good. My hunter class Silhouette rifle, out of the box stock 700 Remington 7mm08, have one that slips over the 6.5x20 target scope. Lets me keep both eyes open with much better target acquisition.

I use the same rifle for hunting but switch out the scope for a 3x9 usually set on 3X Just to try couple or years ago put the blinder on the Hunting scope. It gives me a good fast sight picture, better than without the blinder. No blinder and I get sort of a "ghost" image with my left eye. With it on the scopes bell no interference with general looking around or using binoculars to spot game. It's just a leather ring that slips over the bell with a flap sticking off the left side about half the size of a biz card.

Hear what you are saying about a few months to learn to present the pistol Left eye. I have a ways to go on it yet. Tape makes it easier but the natural point and shoot movement is not a smooth as it was before.

Boats

This post has been edited by Boats: 15 June 2009 - 04:54 AM

[benos]

To really speed up the transition from right hand/right eye to right hand/left - dry fire the crap out of it. Dry-drawing works good, but you don't even have to draw. Just hold your pistol in your right hand in front of your belly, grip with both hands move into your Index position. Over and over and over.
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[leam]

Are you saying with reasonable practice I can become un-cross eye dominant? That would be cool...

Leam

[Boats]

Brian,

That dry fire is good advice, have been doing a lot and it seems to be getting more natural. One thing I have found is seem to come up to proper sight alignment better if my body position is a bit different Left eye right handed vs Right eye right handed.

Not so "square" to the target sort of left side forward, just a few inches in foot positon very little difference.

Boats

[benos]

leam, on Jun 16 2009, 03:14 AM, said:

Are you saying with reasonable practice I can become un-cross eye dominant? That would be cool...

Leam

I wouldn't say that as a statement of fact. Becoming "un-cross eye dominant" would mean changing your eyes dominance from one to the other. Which would be difficult, if possible, depending on the strength of the dominance.

Say you're right handed, what I am saying is that you can train yourself to shoot with either eye.

Boats, on Jun 16 2009, 04:33 AM, said:

Brian,

That dry fire is good advice, have been doing a lot and it seems to be getting more natural. One thing I have found is seem to come up to proper sight alignment better if my body position is a bit different Left eye right handed vs Right eye right handed.

Not so "square" to the target sort of left side forward, just a few inches in foot positon very little difference.

Boats

I think about it like - ideally, upper body position-wise, if you drew a line back through the sights you want it to intersect right in the middle of your body (left to right, drawing on page 46 in PSBF). So whether you aim with your right or left eye, you slightly rotate your head so your eye sees through the sights.
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[Boats]

I see what you mean the picture is clear. Dead square to the line of the guns sights. I had been setting up to index the pistol under my aiming eye, something a guy at the club showed me early on. And switching aiming eye switched index over to the left.

You book is remarkable more you read more you learn.

Boats