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Economy is forcing me not to be an evil ba**ard Or at least not more of one

#1 User is offline   Franklin D Wolverton 

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 09:16 AM

We got a second connex box to put our targets and props in at the range. I've been down there off an on for the last couple weeks moving stuff around, sorting, cleaning, tossing ect.

One of the nice things about this is that I found a TON of stuff I didn't even know we had. I found more poppers, a bunch more plates, 8 full size steel hard cover targets, ect.

What it got me to thinking is that I have just about enough steel to set up 2 or 3 32 round all steel stages (even without using the texas star).

Then I said... you know what? A bunch of our shooters get mind-hosed on steel stages... I set up usually a 20 shot steel stage once a month, and plenty of my guys run out of ammo trying to clear THAT... let alone a couple 32 rounders...

Crap... I hate it when the economy screws up my stage designs...

But... there's always next year... :devil: (Hello Area 5...)

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Heard this said about me one time about 12 years ago... back when I was one of the lean and mean (I was the head instructor for a unit field exercise).

Young LCpl: "Hey Gunny... how come we're just standing around... we were supposed to start 20 minutes ago?

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 12:01 PM

Sooner or later people will just have to learn how to shoot better.

I say use the steel. :ph34r:

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:13 PM

View PostBen Stoeger, on Apr 11 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Sooner or later people will just have to learn how to shoot better.

I say use the steel. :ph34r:


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:18 PM

Less to paste. Use the steel.
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:50 PM

I had this conversation with someone the other day- I wish that I could replace all of the IPSC targets on the classifiers with USPs. I shoot steel so much faster and better than paper. I love using a lot of steel for my matches.
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 04:16 PM

Using steel wastes less paper. "Go Green" and use the steel! :roflol:
Your club members will thank you later (after they get over steelitus).
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:03 PM

Set up a match today and we used every piece of steel at the club I think. Never got the difference to people. I say use every piece you have.
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:16 PM

If you set the steel out there all the time people will get used to it. I grew up shooting steel, took some time to get used to looking for the A zone. I am getting used to it, just like they will. Just start small and build it up a little every month. You will be teaching them to get better at steel and they will probably not even realize it.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:43 PM

You now Im down...make up the stage and ill shoot it!!!!
GOD, and Gaston Glock have provided you with a fine precision firearm! If it quits working after you mess with it, you've got nobody to pray to and you're going to need SOMEBODY to MIRACLE your friggin' bullets downrange, dummy! Don't mess with GOD or GLOCKs


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 08:30 PM

Y'all are preaching to the choir... I love shooting steel as well... thats why I'm REALLY excited about Tom's match at Barry next month (the Metal Works 500).

BUT... Y'all aren't the one everyone complains to because they ran out of ammo and still had 6 mikes :roflol:

Another thing we have in our new box is 10 or 12 .22lr plate racks... I'm gonna have fun with side matches...

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:02 AM

:cheers: means I get to buy another gun!!!!!!
GOD, and Gaston Glock have provided you with a fine precision firearm! If it quits working after you mess with it, you've got nobody to pray to and you're going to need SOMEBODY to MIRACLE your friggin' bullets downrange, dummy! Don't mess with GOD or GLOCKs


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Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:11 AM

We shot a stage yesterday that had 22 pieces of steel and it was a hoot. There will be 32 pieces at Area 6; go for it.
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 09:53 AM

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 05:38 PM

Don't forget you've gotta use 1 paper target...but only 1. One of the best USPSA stages I shot was at the Smith and Wesson factory, Chris from Westfield Practical Shooters set up "Chris' Constellation", a 32 round, 30 steel/ 1 paper COF, shot indoors with questionable (at best) lighting (FO sights didn't really have enough light to be effective), at 20 yards (I think).

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 08:05 AM

Nope... you don't need use a paper target. The rules state:

4.3.1.4
Various sizes of metal plates may be used (see Appendix B5), however, metal plates must not be used exclusively in a course of fire. At least one authorized paper target or Popper must be included in each course of fire.

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Young LCpl: "Hey Gunny... how come we're just standing around... we were supposed to start 20 minutes ago?

Company GySgt: "The war doesn't start until Cpl Wolverton's had his coffee."

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 01:17 PM

View PostFranklin D Wolverton, on Apr 13 2009, 10:05 AM, said:

Nope... you don't need use a paper target. The rules state:

4.3.1.4
Various sizes of metal plates may be used (see Appendix B5), however, metal plates must not be used exclusively in a course of fire. At least one authorized paper target or Popper must be included in each course of fire.

Frank



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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:22 PM

I love steel.

1) Shooting Production or SS, it makes you think more about reloads... With paper, it's 4 targets, 8 shots, mag-change... repeat... With steel, you might run it clean, you might not. Put 7-8 steel in one array, and drive the single-stack and production guys nuts! If you can't slow down and make hits on 8" steel, you DESERVE to run out of ammo... If you can hit 8 steel, even at distance with 8-10 shots, you deserve to score better.

2) I feel too many stages are set up by/for the "hosers", and not enough for the "shooters". The tougher the shots, the better chance I have of winning the stage... Because I learned to shoot GROUPS, before I learned (still learning) to shoot fast! I vote for more 8" steel at 15+ yards!

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:38 PM

I say keep on the steel. :surprise: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:45 PM

If they can only make a harder lighter steels!! I'll keep dreaming. Use the steels
there's nothing like shooting it on the move and start running when the steels are
just starting to fall!

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