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RO Level 1 Class - OHIO June 27-28

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Post icon  Posted 12 March 2009 - 12:12 PM

RO Level 1 class
Sat/Sun June 27-28 (this is the weekend AFTER the Area 5 match)
Pickaway County Sportsmen's range - Circleville OH (site of the 2009 OH Sectional match)

Instructor: Area 5 Director Gary Stevens

Please PM for questions or other registration info.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 03:51 PM

Oh, come on. Can't you guys run a CRO course too? I'll be the first to sign up.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:20 PM

I might come just to see Gary's new ride. Which car you bringing Gary?
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:22 PM

View Postdcarter, on Mar 12 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

Oh, come on. Can't you guys run a CRO course too? I'll be the first to sign up.


They aren't all that popular. I ran one last month, and advertised it for a good 4 months before that, on here and other places. We got 7 total students.

Yes... we lost money on the deal.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:24 PM

View Postdcarter, on Mar 12 2009, 06:51 PM, said:

Oh, come on. Can't you guys run a CRO course too? I'll be the first to sign up.

If you want to coordinate one, talk with Flex.

As Frank said, they're not hugely popular or well-attended.

We're running this RO class to build our cadre of range staff in advance of the OH Sectional. [Y'all c'mon down now, y'hear?].


ETA: saying this without checking the NROI website in detail: there used to be an option to do some (all?) of the CRO certification by mail. Not sure if that is still available, or if I'm even remembering it correctly. Check www.nroi.org for current info.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:30 PM

What Fran said is true - we need RO's more than we do CRO's. I believe we got plenty of them.

But it's weird that you say that about the CRO classes. When I took mine I think we were FULL, or at least close to it. Took it last Summer right here in Dayton Dan. Where were you? :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:45 PM

View PostCHRIS KEEN, on Mar 12 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

What Fran said is true - we need RO's more than we do CRO's. I believe we got plenty of them.

But it's weird that you say that about the CRO classes. When I took mine I think we were FULL, or at least close to it. Took it last Summer right here in Dayton Dan. Where were you? :rolleyes:

I took the RO course at Miamisburg and they had a CRO course that same week I just couldn't get the time off work.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:47 PM

You didn't feel sick that weekend? *cough - cough* :rolleyes:
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:35 PM

Get everybody you know into the RO class this year and we can see about getting a CRO class next year !!!
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:29 PM

View PostFlexmoney, on Mar 12 2009, 11:35 PM, said:

... we can see about getting a CRO class next year !!!

Remind me to discuss that with Gary while he's in town ... (putting this in the 'reminder' file for January 2010) ....
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 06:02 AM

T-minus ~90 days to class, ~60 days to registration deadline.

We have space.

PM me if interested.

Please include your email address; I can't attach the class registration form to return PM's.

Thanks!
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 04:01 PM

Interested in taking the RO class.
what is all the differences between RO CRO and so on?

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 04:43 PM

View PostMTBfarms, on Mar 31 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

Interested in taking the RO class.
what is all the differences between RO CRO and so on?



Range Officer class is mostly about USPSA rules, saftey, and running shooters. Great for the newer shooter just to learn the rules even if they don't ever RO at a match.

The Chief Range Officer class is mostly about stage design and setup following USPSA rule, requires you to submit 2 course of fire. You must be a RO for one year before you can recieve your CRO cert.

For additional info see Rule book, USPSA and NROI website.


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Posted 31 March 2009 - 06:14 PM

As Mark said...

The RO (Range Officer) class is the Level I class...to be taken first.

The CRO (Chief Range Officer) class is the Level II class.


I highly recommend the class.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 05:51 AM

Tax day BTT.

Slots available. PM me with your regular email address for an application and other course info.
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 05:29 PM

(Almost) May Day BTT.

If you'd prefer to submit your paperwork in person, catch me at Circleville (www.pcsirange.com) on Saturday, May 2; or at Rayner's (www.RaynersRange.com) on Sunday May 17.

PM if questions.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 12:05 PM

BTT (yes ... again ...).

Class slots are available, please PM ASAP if interested.

Gary gives a good class and we'll have a good time doing it.

See prior message if you'd rather hand-off your paperwork in person.

Thanks.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:18 PM

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 02:31 PM

BTT and reminder for anyone still '... thinking ...' about this.

I'll be calling the roster count into NROI at this time next week.

Still have some slots available, please PM if interested or if you have questions.

Many thanks.
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 04:12 PM

Are any Louisville area shooters planning on attending? It'd be great to share a ride up, looks like a 4 hour trip...
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:21 PM

Last call.

If interested, if potentially interested, if you're waiting to find out if you have that weekend off before thinking about this class, please let me know now.

I will be ordering a few extra books for late-comers ... just in case ... but I'd hate to be one short ....

Let me know.

If you need carpool info (I've already PM'd on the prior msg), I can pass that along.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 07:52 AM

For anybody debating whether to go or not...

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It will probably be a couple of years until the next RO class, from what I am seeing. Probably looking at 2011.

If anybody in the area thinks they might want to take the USPSA/NROI Level I Range Officer course...now would be the time.

It will help your shooting. It will make you an asset to those you share time with on the range. It will help ensure the continued growth of our sport.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 06:27 AM

I understand there has been some last minute shuffling. A couple people can't make the class, while a handful more joined in. (Everybody thank Fran for organizing this this. She is doing great work here!)

The word from Gary Stevens (instructor) is that they will not turn anybody away at the door. :)

If you need a class, or want a great refresher, now is the time.
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Posted 23 June 2009 - 04:24 PM

Correct. Y'all c'mon down now, y'hear? [I'm from the Great White North, but went to grad school south of the Mason-Dixon line and learned the word "y'all"]

We have "X" class packets, based on the number of people signed up -- plus those who'd talked to me about possibly signing up -- when I had to give that number to NROI. Yes, I ordered extra, 'just in case'.

In a span of 24 hours, I've had two folks cancel (work & a family emergency) and at least four others want to come on a last-minute basis.

Word from instructor Gary Stevens is that we'll just share books if we're short, and make arrangements to photocopy the test if there aren't enough to pass around. We'll handle it; we'll make it work. You'll get a GREAT class from a GREAT instructor (who will be one of the CRO's at the OH Sectional/IPSC National matches in October). This IS 'worth it'.

As previously, this is the ONLY class left in Area 5 this year, and likely the only OH Level 1 class until 2011 (unless we hear some HUGE - and I mean 2 dozen of you - swell of interest next summer).

If you've been maybe thinking about this, if you've been waiting to see what happens once the kids are out of school, if time has 'gotten away from you' and you think it might be 'too late', NOW is the time to decide to attend. This is also the least expensive RO class that you'll see -- lower cost because it is associated with the OH Sectional.

If you have any questions, stray thoughts, doubts, hesitations, or need persuasion otherwise, send me a PM.

I'd prefer that you not just 'show up', completely unannounced, on Saturday but, if that happens, we'll deal with it (class fee cash-American for walk-in's, please).
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Posted 23 June 2009 - 05:05 PM

As others have said, even if you never RO it is worth the effort to learn the rules. RO's sometimes make mistakes, yes I hate to say it but it is true. It is a good thing when you know that you are being subjected to a bad RO call. There can be some significant differences between one rulebook and the next one. Unfortunately, not everyone RO's and shooters take the trouble to keep up on the differences.

Come on down, up or over and we will have a good time.

Mr. Bullitt and I will be there on Friday night, after I get off work and we will start around 8:30 Saturday morning. Remember you need your shooting gear for the range exercise Sunday morning.

You don't have to shoot, but you need to RO a shooter. So someone might need to shoot a couple of times. 18 rounds minimum are needed.

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