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Primer tube detonation - ceiling damage?

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 06:10 AM

Just curious, but for those who've managed to light off a primer tube, what damage if any did your ceiling endure?

My kids watch TV directly over my press. :surprise:

I'm thinking about screwing in a 3/4 thick plywood shield just to be safe.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 06:18 AM

I've never seen it only heard about it from a friend, but I think the primer follower only stuck in the drywall above the press. You know the drywall is going to stop alot of the force, and sub-flooring is pretty thick so I wouldn't be too worried .... but I see your point and you can never be too careful where kids or family are concerned. So it wouldn't hurt.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 06:21 AM

I had a 650 go in my old house, took out the fluorescent light :rolleyes:

I had some old primers stay in the case on a batch of 38specials that sat for 30yrs.......Leaving the "ring" in the primer pocket. Most of the tube went up. The plastic primer tube did more damage to the drywall, rubbing black marks than anything else.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 12:35 PM

When I lit mine off, the follower rod was the only thing that was launched. It hit the overhead (exposed roof in my shop), bent itself into a nice "Z" shape and that was about it. From my experience, the primers pretty much expanded in place and didn't leave the tube.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 07:06 PM

I've had two primer dets with my 650,(see my latest post on primer dets) in both cases, the plastic rod for the low primer sensor shattered either on impast with the ceiling, or from the det, I don't know which. What few primers launched dented a few boards laid across the rafters of my shop, bot no real damage. If you have a sub floor and then what ever above that you should be safe, but any extra insurance is OK in my book.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 07:51 PM

Mine just blew the plastic rod thur the drywall. Inch and a half hole in the drywall, bent the rod. I cant believe it could penterate subfloor above but if a shield would make you feel better, go for it. I did hear a story, friend of a friend kind of a deal, about a guy that had a 230 gr 45 bullet taped to the end of the rod for weight, had a blow up and the rod just barely dented the ceiling. I guess the weight really killed off the velocity, but who knows how many primers he set off. I have the weight taped to mine and I dont want to know if it will help or not.----------Larry
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 10:48 PM

Unplug the TV. :)
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:45 AM

View PostFlexmoney, on Mar 11 2009, 10:48 PM, said:

Unplug the TV. :)



They get to watch about 2hrs a day, IF they do thier chores. Half an hour in the morning, an hour after homework, and half an hour at bed.

Weekends, it all depends on the weather.

However, now that the boys like earning money, often while I reload, they tray and primer check loaded ammo. :cheers: It's amazing what you can get done for a Loonie.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 05:44 PM

I've blown two of the little buggers! :o My bench is in the garage and just below our bonus room. Both times the plastic follower rod left a small ding in the sheet rock ceiling but that's all. You'll have to think of another way to deal with your teenagers. :lol:
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:45 PM

Many years ago, I saw the damage from what I think was a 1050 tube detonation. The reloading room was inside an old insulated trailer that had been converted into a reloading area. I recall that the sheet metal ceiling 3 or so feet above it looked like it had taken a mini-shotgun blast. I don't recall for certain if any of it penetrated, but it looked like it. The rangemaster running the machine said he could only hear a loud ringing for a while after that. I bet it was really loud in that metal box! I recall seeing him run the machine with electronic muffs on at least once after that.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 07:22 PM

I would be more worried about underwear damage than dry wall. :surprise:
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 07:38 PM

When it happened to me the primer follower bounced off of the ceiling. It left a mark, but did not penetrate the sheetrock.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 07:39 PM

Mine is the same too, a mark in the ceiling, wide open eyes and a ringing sound in my ears.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 02:44 AM

Well thiss Sunday I have become a member of the club .

Just setup the 650 to 9mm for a friend and at the fifth stroke KABOOM. Ok time for some coffee and a change of pants. It didn't even occur to us that al the primers had wen't. When we came back aftter coffee I started with a functions check. Hmm primer disc is stuck, so loosend the screws and out fell a couple of empty primer cups, one primer had merged with the disc and the same goes for al lot of the primersin the tube. The inner tube didn't burst, but I have yet to find the platic rod somewhere in my garage. Next time besides safetyglasses some earplugs damn that was loud.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 04:37 AM

View Postdajarrel, on Mar 11 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

When I lit mine off, the follower rod was the only thing that was launched. It hit the overhead (exposed roof in my shop), bent itself into a nice "Z" shape and that was about it. From my experience, the primers pretty much expanded in place and didn't leave the tube.

fwiw

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+1 for mine when it went off. The little plastic follower rod was destroyed and stuck in the celing. Nothing else came out.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:11 AM

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what damage if any did your ceiling endure?

The rod poked a hole in a tile in a drop ceiling.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:52 AM

As primers are at a premium, better not do that to often...
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:33 AM

Other then scaring the crap out of me, It only left the large end of the follower and and about one inch of the rod stuck in the drywall ceiling.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:50 AM

mine popped one off last night...that was interesting..i load standing up and when it went off..it felt like the buzzer had went off to start a stage.. i was movin to the left at warp speed :roflol:
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:41 AM

View PostCanuck223, on Mar 11 2009, 07:10 AM, said:

Just curious, but for those who've managed to light off a primer tube, what damage if any did your ceiling endure?

My kids watch TV directly over my press. :surprise:

I'm thinking about screwing in a 3/4 thick plywood shield just to be safe.


The primers would have to go through 1/2 an inch of drywal, 3/4 an inch or OSB/Flooring. Thats not going to happen. They don't have the mass to make it that far. Your extra plywood would deflect them towards you a little easier as well.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:49 AM

Why not just put up the board for your peace of mind...? What will it take like 2mins and a couple of screws?
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Posted 12 October 2009 - 01:59 PM

After just setting up my new 650 I have to ask whats with all the 650 primer detonations? I have never had any with my 550, but it sounds like most are getting it with the 650. Should I be extra cautious about something?
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Posted 12 October 2009 - 02:25 PM

View Postwerewolf45auto, on Oct 12 2009, 03:59 PM, said:

After just setting up my new 650 I have to ask whats with all the 650 primer detonations? I have never had any with my 550, but it sounds like most are getting it with the 650. Should I be extra cautious about something?



I was just going to start searching for that same information.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:13 AM

On the XL650, primers in the disc are spaced close enough together that detonating one while seating can more readily set off the others in a chain effect. As long as you don't try to impress the machine with your brute strength, it isn't an issue. Most common causes are trying to seat primers in crimped primer pockets, ringers, and not adjusting the station two locator tab to keep the case from coming out of the shellplate. In virtually all instances, the user recalls having to apply force beyond what is normally required to seat the primer. Good rule: if it feels funny, STOP! :surprise:
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:24 AM

I set mine off in my garage. The primer tube hit the celing and left a mark, that was about it. It was not the 650's fault I kept trying to seat a primer that was hung up. :surprise:

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