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Posted 28 February 2009 - 06:21 AM
Hey Guys &Gals I'm searching for the diagram of an old classifier called The Swinging El Presidente. I remember shooting it at one of the first Single Stack Matches held in Milan, IL. Does anyone have it ? If you do, can you e-mail it to me.
Thanks a mil. Ron
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 08:28 AM
This was a stage shot first at the TN sectional in 04 stage 9(as far as I know). It is not a classifier but it was an awesome stage. I was my second match so I remember it well. I shot L10 with a SS45 and I was just glad I didn't DQ. 
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"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 08:40 AM
ChuckS, on Feb 28 2009, 09:20 AM, said:
Never heard of it but it sounds interesting. Would you please describe it?
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As close as I can remember you started facing up range and at the beep you activated the swingers by pushing over a pepper popper (all three targets were swinging). It was a 60 point stage so we must have done the mandatory reload.
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"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 04:14 PM
Ron Buchnat, on Feb 28 2009, 07:21 AM, said:
Hey Guys &Gals I'm searching for the diagram of an old classifier called The Swinging El Presidente. I remember shooting it at one of the first Single Stack Matches held in Milan, IL. Does anyone have it ? If you do, can you e-mail it to me.
Thanks a mil. Ron
Thanks a mil. Ron
Hi Chuck, You started facing uprange with your hands relaxed at your sides. At the beep, you pushed down a pepper popper. This popper activated 3 swinging metric targets which disappeared behind metal metric no shoots on each pass. If I remember right, the distance was 11 yards and the targets were not set the same so they did not swing in the same direction. I hope you can make a mental picture of this. Hey I found my score book. This stage was stage 9 at the 3rd Annual Single Stack Classic 1997 shot at the Milan Rifle Club in Milan,IL. Rob Leatham won the stage with a time of 8.63 and he had 54 points out of 60.
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 05:56 PM
Look familiar ? 
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 06:00 PM
That looks fun, timing would be everything.. 
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 06:32 PM
Looks like a fun stage, hard to believe it would have ever been a classifier due to the issue of consistency in swinger design, speed and timing of activation nationwide.
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Posted 01 March 2009 - 08:43 AM
Scott R, on Feb 28 2009, 07:32 PM, said:
Looks like a fun stage, hard to believe it would have ever been a classifier due to the issue of consistency in swinger design, speed and timing of activation nationwide.
Hi Scott, I could have been mistaken about it being a classifier. I shot it at the Single Stack Classic back in 1997 before USPSA took over the match.
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Posted 02 March 2009 - 07:11 AM
Ron Buchnat, on Mar 1 2009, 09:43 AM, said:
Scott R, on Feb 28 2009, 07:32 PM, said:
Looks like a fun stage, hard to believe it would have ever been a classifier due to the issue of consistency in swinger design, speed and timing of activation nationwide.
Hi Scott, I could have been mistaken about it being a classifier. I shot it at the Single Stack Classic back in 1997 before USPSA took over the match.
Wow! that stage has been around a long time! It sure is a fun one.
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"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:26 PM
tpcdvc, on Mar 2 2009, 08:11 AM, said:
Ron Buchnat, on Mar 1 2009, 09:43 AM, said:
Scott R, on Feb 28 2009, 07:32 PM, said:
Looks like a fun stage, hard to believe it would have ever been a classifier due to the issue of consistency in swinger design, speed and timing of activation nationwide.
Hi Scott, I could have been mistaken about it being a classifier. I shot it at the Single Stack Classic back in 1997 before USPSA took over the match.
Wow! that stage has been around a long time! It sure is a fun one.
Hey Slip Knot, I don't think you were around when this stage was created at least not from the picture I'm looking at. By the way, did you catch any fish ? I don't know if you can shoot fast enough to miss & still win, but I do know you can shoot very fast and miss and still look "COOL"
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 10:47 PM
Ron Buchnat, on Mar 12 2009, 05:26 PM, said:
By the way, did you catch any fish ?
I thought that was a picture of a fish...with a girl in the background ???
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 09:23 AM
Those photos are of me shooting it at Pine Tree and yes, it is a very fun and challenging stage. I got to see Matt Cheely shoot it before he RO'd me and you couldn't even tell there were swingers as fast as he shot it.
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