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Best / Worst Powder Metering in Dillon Measure Especially for Rifle Powders

#1 User is offline   DaveLee 

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 12:57 PM

As I was reading through the topics last night, I discovered one member's post that described a call to Dillon where the service person recommended not using AA5 - and that got me thinking. Now retired, I've recently returned to reloading after a ten year absence. I have a bunch of powders I haven't tried in the 550B and it would be interesting to see what others think about how the various powders meter through the 550B.

So without regard for how the powders perform once loaded.

I find that Unique meters poorly and Tite Group is superb.

What say you?

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 04:11 PM

AA5 didn't do to well as said. W231 was excellent!

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 05:05 PM

clays meters well for me
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 11:30 AM

Win231 and Tightgroup meter amazingly easy and accurate for me.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:35 PM

Varget is a teriffic .223 powder but has a tendency to bridge causing inconsistent loads. For .223 loads H335 flows nice and consistent.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:11 AM

W231 and Clays meter great for my 45.

Will be starting to reload 308 in a few weeks with Varget...so i'll let you know.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:12 PM

VV320N seems to meter well for me. I currently load 9mm, .38 Special, and .45 ACP (all setup with separate toolheads and powder measures) and they all seem to be very consistent for me.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:02 PM

The VV powders seem to measure very well over others due to the small size of the powder granules.
Use of 310 for pistol. Also use of 3n37.

Hogdon Benchmark for .223 meters very consistently. This is also a fairly small sized powed granule.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:47 PM

Vit 320, Clays, and Tight Group all metered well for me.

I'd be especially interested in what rifle powders meter well, for 223 and 308, because I hear that question a lot on the phone.

Gary at Dillon told me this one day for 223: Winchester 748, Hodgen H-335, Accurate 2230, and Accurate 2015, which is a "stick (extruded) powder," but the sticks are very small so it will rarely bridge in the Powder Measure, all work real well for .223 in a Dillon Powder Measure.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 04:15 PM

Hogdon's Benchmark has metered well fro me for .223.
I'll be trying another of their "exteme" powders- 322, also for .223 soon.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 02:38 PM

View PostDaveLee, on Feb 15 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

As I was reading through the topics last night, I discovered one member's post that described a call to Dillon where the service person recommended not using AA5 - and that got me thinking. Now retired, I've recently returned to reloading after a ten year absence. I have a bunch of powders I haven't tried in the 550B and it would be interesting to see what others think about how the various powders meter through the 550B.

So without regard for how the powders perform once loaded.

I find that Unique meters poorly and Tite Group is superb.

What say you?



Wouldn't it be nice if Dillon would publish something that tells users what
works and doesn't work in their press. I am trying to use 2520 in my
550B and I've got more on the bench than I do in the cases. What an
awful powder system, just awful, not to mention the awful primer system.
W748 wasn't any better.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 06:20 PM

I use WSF for 40S&W and 9mm and get really consistant charges. There does not seem to be a whole lot of talk about this powder but my guns are still relatively clean after matches. Really accurate loads. I would like to hear if others are using this powder and what what there loads and PF are. Please give bullet, grn of powder, and OAL.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 02:41 PM

All the ball powders such as W-231, WSF, WST, etc. and their Hodgdon counterpaRTS meter exceptionally well. as do the Vihtavouri N-310, N-320, N-330, Alliant's, Bullseye, American Select, and Power Pistol.

The worst metering powder I have ever used was HS-800X.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 11:03 PM

"As I was reading through the topics last night, I discovered one member's post that described a call to Dillon where the service person recommended not using AA5 - and that got me thinking. Now retired, I've recently returned to reloading after a ten year absence. I have a bunch of powders I haven't tried in the 550B and it would be interesting to see what others think about how the various powders meter through the 550B. "

So what is the problem with AA5 and a Dillon?

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 03:41 PM

Since this is a common theme, I brought this back up.

Still looking for your favorite 308 powders that meter well in a Dillon Powder Measure.

From my notes I have these for 223:
Winchester 748, Hodgen H-335 & Benchmark, Accurate 2230, and Accurate 2015, which is a "stick (extruded) powder," but the sticks are very small so it will rarely bridge in the Powder Measure, all work real well for .223 in a Dillon Powder Measure.

I know 748 works well for 308 - long ago I used it a lot and had great results with it.

Also, for 308, Dillon recommended IMR 4895 and 4064.


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Posted 19 October 2009 - 04:05 PM

VV beats 'em all on metering consistency
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:27 AM

Glad to hear IMR 4895 meters well. I got all the components and just need a Lee crimp die and I will be turing out about 1000 rounds. Thanks for the post Brian.

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 01:23 PM

For 38 super, I have found Ramshot SILHOUETTE to meter very well. At Area for my extreme spread was 1 at the Chrono. I am not sure if the rifle powders meter as well.


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Posted 21 October 2009 - 01:41 PM

Hodgdon makes H4831 in an SC (short cut) form. I wish they did this on some of the other rifle powders. It meters like water for my 30-06 loads.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 07:41 PM

I have no problem metering:

trailboss
win231
win wst
win wsf
unique
power pistol
bullseye
ADI AP50N
ADI AP70N

so im guessing any pistol powder will have no issues.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 07:47 PM

+1 for AA2230 for .223, i've got about 8K rounds loaded on my 1050 (i know, only about 2 days worth of loading after brass prep ;) with very consistent powder throws (spot checks show i'm usually within .1-.2 gr ona 24gr powder drop.

for pistol, i've had very consistent results with WW231 and Power Pistol. Have read unhappy reports about unique but i've found it to be okay, usually within .2gr on an 8 gr powder throw (which is less consistent then a ball powder but for .45 colt at 30 yards, that's sufficient consistency for my purposes).

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 08:26 PM

For 223 Ramshot tac, H 322, H 335, and Varget all meter well. The bridging issue with Varget is usually caused by a bit of case lube still in the case neck which causes the powder to stick in the neck. When the ram is lowered the powder dumps all over the press. After I started tumbling my cases to remove all the lube before I loaded them the bridging went away. Varget is hard to beat; especially with heavy bullets.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 01:42 AM

I had the opposite experience with Varget and .223. The only way I could get it to work was to keep a wrench right beside the press and while the powder was dropping pick it up and tap the side powder measure adapter with it. I had to do a bit of polishing to get Varget to meter consistently in .308 too. IMO, Varget is a PIA with a Dillon powder measure but its the only powder I have had a problem with.

I had excellent results with W748 in .223.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:44 AM

In .223 W748 is just perfect through my 550B as is all other W powders I use.

In Pistol W231 - Titegroup - UClays - W540 - W296 - Silhouette all work very well.

I have been using H4895 for 30-06. I believe this is the "Short Cut" powder. When it's gone, I have 8lbs of surplus IMR4895 that should prove interesting.....through the 550B.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 11:40 AM

BLC(2) meters and works well in .308, I've not had any problem with TAC, WW748, WC844, WC846 (which works great in .308), WW231. Minor problems with SP2, Unique and any really small flake powder, seems to get squished between Dillon's powder bar and the measure's frame. Changed over to one of Ralph Arredondo's plastic bars and that problem went away.

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