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#1 Rocknrollgen

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 09:20 PM

Hi, I got a bargain on a bunch of Titegroup powder. Does anyone have any load data using Precision 147gr coated FP bullets? Or for that matter Titegroup with any 9mm, .40S&W, .357 SIG or .45 ACP. At this point I'm mainly interested in loads that other people have found that work well, are reasonably accurate and are safe. Don't really care if they make major, etc. I'm finding that data for loading with Titegroup is kind of skimpy.

Appreciate any help anyone can give me!

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 10:20 PM

Do a string search in the 9mm reloading section and you will find a thread I started about 147gr Masterblaster bullets (same as Precisions) and a bunch of reloading data in it. Precisions are gonna smoke like a freight train with TG, but are really accurate and soft shooting.

As for the rest, TG is used in 40 and 45 pretty regularly. Again a thread search in the appropriate reloading area will result in tons of info.
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 03:25 AM

I had sworn off TG due to my experience with it in revolvers, but then I realized I've never used a powder that worked better with jacketed bullets in 9x19. 4.2 grains under a Zero 125 grain JHP is super accurate. I'm using Montana Gold 121 grain IFPs now and it works well there too.

It's not good for plain lead or coated lead bullets due to the heat - it's the hottest burning powder out there due to its high nitroglycerine content, and this contributes to smoke.
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Posted 18 August 2008 - 05:57 AM

I got talked into trying some TG. ~4.2 (bottom of the load table) under 124 gr MG makes ~132PF out of a 4" XD. Understand that nothing else (except N320 - $$) even comes close to making that PF out of this gun without (1)being at/over the top of the load table, and/or (2)showing some primer flow/flattening.

A friend had trouble with TG + 147 gr lead/moly bullets tumbling out of his 5" CZ. It was also very dirty/smoky with lead.

I've noticed more soot with TG than with Solo or N320, but it seems to clean up relatively easily.

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 06:05 AM

Tite Group is a great powder for 9mm and 40. I would try about 3.2 grns. with the 147 Precisions that would probably be around 130 PF in a 5'' gun.


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Posted 18 August 2008 - 06:32 AM

Welcome to the forum!

Did a Search and found this...better send out for lunch :)

Barely the tip of the info iceberg available on the forum.

I used 3.2 to 3.3 grains in my G17 with Berry's or Rainer's 147gr plated. Switched to

124/125 gr bullets and Clays recently because of better match results. YMMV.


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Posted 18 August 2008 - 07:24 AM

Anybody else notice that around 4.2 grains of titegroup works with a 125 gr in 9x19,
180 gr in 40, and a 230 gr in 45? If you only have one powder measure it sure cuts
down on setup time.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:07 PM

I have used 3.3 to 3.4 gr. titegroup under the 147 gr. Star FMJ with excellent results. The only minus with Titegroup is the hot barrel - it's a very fast burning powder with high nitoglycerin content. Most recently I have switched to WSF for a cooler burn.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 09:32 AM

Hi, I got a bargain on a bunch of Titegroup powder. Does anyone have any load data using Precision 147gr coated FP bullets? Or for that matter Titegroup with any 9mm, .40S&W, .357 SIG or .45 ACP. At this point I'm mainly interested in loads that other people have found that work well, are reasonably accurate and are safe. Don't really care if they make major, etc. I'm finding that data for loading with Titegroup is kind of skimpy.

Appreciate any help anyone can give me!


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Posted 30 August 2008 - 02:54 PM

Welcome to the forum!

Did a Search and found this...better send out for lunch :)

Barely the tip of the info iceberg available on the forum.

I used 3.2 to 3.3 grains in my G17 with Berry's or Rainer's 147gr plated. Switched to

124/125 gr bullets and Clays recently because of better match results. YMMV.


Jim


Here your link

http://www.brianenos...9 titegroup 147




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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:25 PM

I run 4.4 grains of TG behind 115 plated Speers. Makes 132k with my G34. 1.125" OAL. Been running this for the past few years.

Still loading 9's for 5.5 cents each, old components. I get my TG for $88 / 8lbs. Used to be $80 about a year and a half ago.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:13 AM

Anybody else notice that around 4.2 grains of titegroup works with a 125 gr in 9x19,
180 gr in 40, and a 230 gr in 45? If you only have one powder measure it sure cuts
down on setup time.

Bill

Yep. It works under a 158gr SWC in 38spl too...

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:37 AM

I use TG for 9mm luger religiously. I load montana gold 115gr FMJ, with cci primers, and use blazer cases. I load to 4.3gr of Hodgdon Titegroup and it is deadly accurate out of my Sig p226 from 30ft. The grouping were all over the center and were less than .31" apart. Amazing. It does tend to be smokey and dirty with lead rounds, but it cleans up easily as long as you get it clean within a day or 2. Anything longer than that it starts to stick a little more.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

I use Tight Group with .40, 4.7 grains with a 180 grain Xtreme (plated) RNFP. I like it allot. My son uses 5 grains with a similiar bullet.

I have not chronoed this load (don't have a Chronograph).
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

I am using titgroup in 9 and 40. Just cronoed and came up with :

9mm 124gr montana gold /4.0 titegroup / federal 100m/ federal case/ average fps is 1050 / power factor of 130.2

shot out a 5" barrel

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

im using 4.6 grn tg under 230 grn berrys round nose lead 45's. I started out with 4.2 and worked up from there had some cycling issues in teh beginning bumping up to 4.6 solved.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

I use Tight Group with .40, 4.7 grains with a 180 grain Xtreme (plated) RNFP. I like it allot. My son uses 5 grains with a similiar bullet.

I have not chronoed this load (don't have a Chronograph).


I use Tight Group with .40, 4.5 grains with a 180 grain Xtreme RNFP. They chrono @ 170 through a XDM 5.25.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:08 PM

I've only used Titegroup in 45 acp with plated bullets.

Edited by cascade tactical, 07 March 2013 - 02:21 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

Not sure how the Precision bullets compare to Bear Creek (Moly coated), but I do have a load for their 147 grain bullets. I haven't run them through a chrono, but I have run a couple hundred rounds like this out of my XDm 5.25 and they seem fine. I've shot paper with them and haven't seen any signs of tumbling or anything. Anyway, it's 3.3 grains of TG @ 1.120". I've actually tried 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 grains, but I eventually stuck with 3.3 even though all three loads seemed to shoot ok. I did get a couple tumblers with 3.1 grains at like 1.115", so YMMV.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:41 PM

Great thread. My buddy and are are about to load some 147 grain 9mm J&K projectiles with some TG.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:31 AM

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:36 AM

I'm getting 130pf with 3.8grs titegroup 124gr MG JHP 1.14oal out of a cz shadow and glock 34

Edited by -Ace-, 01 June 2013 - 07:11 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:55 PM

124 gr. MG JHP

4.2 grains TiteGroup

1.140" COAL

 

G34 = 1141 FPS

G17 = 1128 FPS

G19 = 1121 FPS

G26 = 1112 FPS

Springfield EMP = 1017 FPS

STI 5.0 Tactical = 1108 FPS

Wilson Combat Spec Ops 9 = 1081 FPS

Springfield XDm 4.5 bbl = 1149 FPS


Edited by 45 Raven, 01 June 2013 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:13 PM

Lots of Titegroup data on the Hodgdon website.

On the plus side Titegroup provides very uniform velocities in most calibers.

On the minus side it burns hot due to it's high nitroglycerin content and it has numerous small grains which drop down onto my Dillon shell plate.

I prefer a powders such as WST, WSF, Bulseye or W-231 for most all of my semi auto pistol loads. I tend to use Trail Boss in the revolver loads.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

LIL Hillbilly,

 

I have loaded 9s for several years with Titegroup, many thousands.

 

I just loaded 600 this week for  Jr Shooter I give Ammo to.

 

That said, it has always had a "bark and a bite" that POed me.

 

If every thing in the ammo re-loading world had not gone to HELLO, I was going to maybe change to VV N320.

 

Have Chrono and all right stuff to work up loads, been sick and a lil lazy.

 

Have FUN be SAFE !

 

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