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Anyone ever put 2 Texas stars in line ?

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Post icon  Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:20 PM

Anyone ever put 2 Texas stars in line . I was think of trying this and painting a couple plates as no shoots on the front and maybe one on the back star. Would this cause too many reshoots ? or is it legal ?
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:27 PM

We have done it in Steel matches.
I don't know about in a USPSA match.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:37 PM

Did the bullets bounce off the first star and knock plates off the back star ?

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:59 PM

2 years ago the Double Tap had 2 stars in line that were put into counter rotation upon opening of the door. There were some hard cover fixed plates on the first star......quite fun finished 7th with 3rd fastest time but when I did not open the door enough I had to shoot the last target in the right array strong hand and dropped a couple deltas......

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:01 PM

2007 Double Tap Championship Stage 11. Video Worked great. None of your concerns occurred.

ETA: DrawandDuck's video is much better than the one I found.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:12 PM

I just did one last month at my match. You open the door and the stars started to spin. 4 shoots and one noshoot on each star. I also used red on one star and green on the other. Turned out to be a great stage.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:26 PM

Great , Then will try it . Some hate that star and now theres going to be 2 of them . I hope they come back !!LOL :surprise:

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:34 PM

Here's a kinda double star with paper-no-shoots behind steel, they are linked together and spin opposite direction.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=geHLAQhJDlQ
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 08:47 PM

OK how do you fix the back star like that? I want to do that.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 08:52 PM

Talk to Evil Bill aka open17 on the forums here.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 09:12 PM

I wish IDPA had something like a Texas Star.......:(

When I get more proficient I'll go back to USPSA

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 09:18 PM

I've shot a texas star in IDPA match before, it's either -0 for each hit or -5 points for a miss and a FTN.

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:21 AM

Thanks Homie,

I'll have to have a talk with the "Powers that be" in my IDPA area.

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 02:29 PM

The criteria for steel in a legal IDPA match is no more than 25% of the required hits in any one stage on steel and no more than 10% in the overall match.

CoF 18. No more than 25% of the shots required on any string
of fire may be on steel targets and no more than 10% of the
total shots required in the match may be on steel.


So, if you use the Star with 5 plates, you would have to have a minimum of 15 required hits on paper. Maximum legal stage is 18 rounds, so it can't be done. That said, an IDPA club only has to have 6 IDPA matches per year.

5. Clubs must agree to hold a minimum of six (6) IDPA
matches per year.


So, after you've had six, throw in a "non-legal" match with a fun stage with the Texas Star. I've done it, so have other "big name" clubs. The Texas Star makes people better shooters.
For an IDPA legal stage try something like this. It's completely legal and will really separate the men from the boys. ;)
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 02:37 PM

That stage kicked my a_ _ last week. We gave Steve J. a new middle name. :roflol:

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 05:16 PM

While it isn't 2 Stars it is a pretty fun stage. No shoots and steel hard cover made it a little difficult.

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 01:30 PM

Those Dundee stages are awesome. Remember the 2002 Crazy Croc there when several stages had the Star. Haven't shot a star in a few years now... haven't missed it.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 08:22 PM

I like the idea of dual Stars as a shooter, but I always seem to be the steel setting guy and resetting them would make me grumpy.
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:52 PM

We had a local match with 2 stars in-line. You just have to make sure there is enough distance between the 1st and 2nd that any hot loads won't knock the steel from the first into the 2nd. But not too far that the arms obscure the steel on the 2nd. Paint them all white and once they get going it looks like a couple of propellers going! Of course, if the top plate off of the 1st does it the 2nd, it's going to be on the bottom and the 2nd will REALLY spin then. I'd almost go ahead and give them the plate if that happens.
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:20 PM

we did this early in the year...hard cover plates in front of shoot plates, spinning in opposite directions. video from it is on downrange TV here:

http://www.downrange.tv/player2.htm
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:32 PM

At the DTC '07, there was a "hardcover" plate on each star, not both on the front ;) You can't do two full, 5 plate stars in a row, as it exceeds the number of shots that can be required from one position (unless you can engage the thing from multiple spots, of course).

It was intense, trying to track both stars quickly ;) No shoot plates would be a little... overly evil... <_<
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 07:27 PM

I tried it and it worked fine. We were ask if we would like to set a stage up at a match they call the "21st Territorial Match'' at Bend or the River club. It is not a USPSA match but its ran safety Wise like one . Are stage is 38 rds. with the 2 stars and they will be spinning opposite directions when you get to them.

It a fun match were clubs bring a stage to that club and set it up. This was are first year as a USPSA club and got ask if we would like to set a stage up. It took about 3 seconds of thinking and said "YES".

Come out and try it this Sunday at Bend of the River club in MI.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:17 PM

View PostSteve J, on Jul 11 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

2007 Double Tap Championship Stage 11. Video Worked great. None of your concerns occurred.

ETA: DrawandDuck's video is much better than the one I found.


And here's another one: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=O5fH1CNZPHo. The double stars are at 0:41.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:30 AM

View PostXRe, on Sep 22 2008, 11:32 PM, said:

At the DTC '07, there was a "hardcover" plate on each star, not both on the front ;) You can't do two full, 5 plate stars in a row, as it exceeds the number of shots that can be required from one position (unless you can engage the thing from multiple spots, of course).

It was intense, trying to track both stars quickly ;) No shoot plates would be a little... overly evil... <_<


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Posted 24 September 2008 - 04:38 PM

Personally I'd just layer up 5 or so noshoot paper targets to fill the area behind the star and call it good :devil:
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