Sig 226 Durability
Posted 20 June 2003 - 06:49 AM
Anyone have any long term, high round experience with this gun?
Posted 20 June 2003 - 07:18 AM
Posted 20 June 2003 - 09:05 AM
I was the first GM in production division and that was 100% with my SIG 226 (aluminum frame and all). I guess that I have 20k to 25k rounds each of my 226s. They are both utterly reliable and shoot much better groups than I can. The only thing to ever break on my Sigs was an extractor that wore out and one of the roll pins holding the firing pin/extractor block in the slide.
This year I am shooting a Beretta Vertec which also has an aluminum frame. No problems yet.
If you are shooting 130pf loads, you change your recoil spring when it gets worn, and you keep you gun lubricated, then I see no reason why an aluminum framed gun cannot last for at least 70 or 80 thousand rounds. Of course, some will break at 5k rounds and some won't break to 500k rounds, but I believe the neither is the norm.
Posted 20 June 2003 - 10:17 AM
Thanks for the reply, it's kinda what I expected to hear. My guess is the crap that I was told is urban legend.
I'm curious: why did you switch to the Beretta?
Posted 20 June 2003 - 10:23 AM
Like David, I would not hesitate to buy a 226 because of its aluminum frame. I have seen 226s with cracked frames (by the locking block) but they had been exposed to 30k or more of +P+ Hydrashock (155pf?) and had suffered from poor maintenance. (ie same recoil spring through 30k of +P+)
Posted 20 June 2003 - 10:26 AM
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Posted 20 June 2003 - 11:06 AM
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Posted 20 June 2003 - 01:26 PM
I understand that Sig may be working on a new slide stop and grip to prevent shooters from stopping the slide lock.
Posted 20 June 2003 - 06:03 PM
He said that because of the steel slide and aluminum frame, the guns don't hold up well to high volume shooting. They shoot loose quickly, and he has seen some frames crack below the slide rails.
This may be old news to you, but steel frames crack just as nicely as aluminum. Shoot sane loads and you should be peachy. As far as "shooting loose," keep in mind that every aluminum part of any quality these days is anodized. Anodizing, as I understand, is essentially a ceramic - very hard stuff. Life with aluminum is good, right up until the anodizing wears through. After that, it will gall like crazy.
Keep your slide greased up and free of grit and that eventuality will probably be a loooong way off...
Buy the steel frame because you want the weight, not because you're afraid of aluminum.
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Posted 22 June 2003 - 07:47 PM
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Posted 25 June 2003 - 06:43 AM
As you can tell so far, I wouldn't give any credibility to the claims of the gun dealer. I have only heard of one group of Sig's cracking. They were Sig 220's (45acp) that were being used by DEA. After about 20-25K on Federal 230 Hydra-shok, some of the frames were starting to crack. Sig fixed this problem. This was circa 1992-94. I also attended a firearms school with a couple of SEAL's about 4 years ago. Both of them had 226's that were well worn. I asked about round count and both said they had over 100k on the guns. I think you'll have no problems with the 226 should you decide to get one.
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Posted 06 July 2003 - 11:26 AM
are you a GM in Limited or Limited 10 also or just Production? Being a GM (low GM that is) in Limited, I always shot 1911's and that is what I'm used to, and when I shoot Sigs, for some reason, I'm just not as accurate and sharp with Sigs. Did you have the same experience and you just shot the Sig P226 to death to overcome that, or it just came easy to you? I've heard great things about the accuracy of Sigs, but I don't get the same results, how about you?
Posted 06 July 2003 - 12:28 PM
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