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 Jan 9 2008, 01:25 PM
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 Ghost Dog  Group: Admin Posts: 11862 Joined: 1-May 01 From: AZ Member No.: 171  |
I'm out of the loop on modern-day powders. This would be a good resource to have all in one place, and also, since I get this question every day on the phone -
What are your favorite Powders for 9, 40, 45, 223, & 308? (And add additional calibers if you wish.) Please be as specific as possible, e.g., list in order of preference, and add comments if you have them. For example, if I were listing my favorite powders for 40 S&W, I'd say; 40 S&W Vihtavuori 320 Extremely clean burning; Very light recoil; But a little fast burning/high pressure for maximum loads; Expensive, more difficult to locate. Hodgdon Clays Very clean burning; Very light recoil; But a little fast burning/high pressure for maximum loads; Reasonably priced, easy to locate. Hodgdon Tight Group Medium clean burning; Fairly sharp recoil; Very low pressure for all loads; Reasonably priced, easy to locate. And please, if you list a load (rather than just a powder), include the OAL (overall length) in your post. be
Reason for edit: to include listing OAL
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Jan 9 2008, 01:40 PM
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 Coerced Group: Classified Posts: 6362 Joined: 29-December 04 From: FL Member No.: 4953 |
Brian
Those are the 3 powders I use, and the comments are perfect. I use the 320 and Titegroup for .40. I have just recently switched to the VV320 for the cleaner burn. For .45, I use Clays. and as in .40, Titegroup is a backup if my primary powder supply is depleted. ZH -------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 01:50 PM
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 My avatar looks like it is flipping you off. Group: Classified Posts: 1487 Joined: 10-May 05 From: Currently Torrance, CA (but soon to change, again) Member No.: 5850 |
Brian,
Thinking of carrying reloading components in your store  ?
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Jan 9 2008, 01:53 PM
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 Sees Sights Group: Classified Posts: 264 Joined: 4-October 06 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 9204 |
38 Super Comp I use IMR 4756
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Jan 9 2008, 03:17 PM
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Beyond it All Group: Classified Posts: 1948 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 6543 |
9MM Major
True Blue Dot tracks straight up and down never out of lens Soft recoil, good gas pressure Easy to find 38 SC VV 3N38 Clean, great gas volume Good dot tracking very consistant, not temp sensitive expensive and sometimes hard to find |
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Jan 9 2008, 03:24 PM
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 GM in probation division... Group: Classified Posts: 3078 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Peachtree City, Georgia Member No.: 7294 |
40 Cal : Vihtavuori N320, clean but more expensive
TiteGroup, inexpensive, easy to find but smokes behind lead bullets 223 : XMR 2015, exceptionally consistent, great accuraccy with light bullets 38SC : IMR4756, don't know yet, just crossed to the dark side 
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Jan 9 2008, 03:27 PM
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 Area 1 Director Group: Classified Posts: 1787 Joined: 9-January 02 From: Everett, WA (US) Member No.: 177 |
Major9: Silhouette
38SC: Vihtavuori N350 Both meter very consistently, don't have a great deal of variation across temperature ranges or across lots. Silhouette is a little dirty, but not bad. B --------------------  March 2006 Bruce Gary bruce.gary@verizon.net "Many people are unaware that their actions and thoughts are being directed to suit the agendas of shadowy agencies. The Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie is the most effective, inexpensive and stylish way to combat psychotronic mind control." |
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Jan 9 2008, 03:38 PM
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 Sees Sights Group: Classified Posts: 345 Joined: 8-August 05 From: San Antonio, Texas Member No.: 6299 |
Brain,
9mm = Vihtavuori N320 40 = Vihtavuori N320 45 = Clays JS -------------------- "May your hands always be busy, May your feet always be swift...."
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Jan 9 2008, 04:06 PM
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 Beyond it All Group: Classified Posts: 1277 Joined: 20-February 05 From: Gainesville, Florida Member No.: 5360 |
9mm minor (147gr) and 38 Super major (125 gr)
IMR 4756 Inexpensive, consistent metering, easy to find from many Internet vendors, clean burning, low smoke and no pressure problems. It produces a good amount of gas for my open gun comps. .45ACP and 9mm minor (125gr) Clays Very inexpensive (relatively speaking), consistent metering, easy to find even locally and clean burning. It does put out some smoke with FMJs but I normally use JHPs. This combination meets all my relaoding needs so I don't need to inventory a bunch of different powders. -------------------- Mr. SOB #16 "Times Two"
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Jan 9 2008, 04:08 PM
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 Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 737 Joined: 30-March 04 From: Virginia & West Virginia Member No.: 3688 |
9mm - N320
40 - N320 45 - N320 - Very consistent lot-to-lot. In twelve years I've never had to change charges. Titegroup as a back up for all three. .38 Super - N350 .223 - 55's BL-C(2) - meters beautifully .223 - 69's Varget .308 - 155's, 168, 175's - Varget - Clean, consistent, 1 click in elevation between my cabin at 1500 feet and Whittington at 7000. -------------------- "For those who fight for it life has a flavor the protected never know."
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Jan 9 2008, 05:15 PM
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 Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 991 Joined: 14-January 03 From: LaPlace, LA Member No.: 1793 |
9mm- 7625
38spl- Trail Boss 40 S&W- N320 38super- 4756 45acp- Win Super Target 223- H335 7mm-08- H414 -------------------- Guess you're gonna tell me that's a perfect double?!
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Jan 9 2008, 05:25 PM
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 aka: DIRTY CHAMBER Group: Classified Posts: 1794 Joined: 26-March 07 From: Salt Lake City UT Member No.: 10849 |
40 majo: Tightgroup
40 minor: Clays 223 H335 meters well, very accurate for all loads 52-69gr. 223 69-77gr. Varget, very accurate but meters a little more difficult.. -------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:36 PM
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Looks for Range Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 22-August 07 Member No.: 12102 |
I hope that this isn't off track, but I'd like to know from the experienced shooters out there which powders show a lot of temperature sensitivity and which way that sensitivity takes the round. That is as the temp goes up does the pf and velocity go up or down?
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Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM
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 Beyond it All Group: Classified Posts: 1513 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Temple Texas Member No.: 12031 |
QUOTE(1911jerry @ Jan 9 2008, 04:38 PM)  Brain, 9mm = N320 40 = N320 45 = Clays JS +1 -------------------- USPSA- A-59988
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Jan 9 2008, 06:27 PM
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 Looks for Range Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 28-December 07 Member No.: 13256 |
.40 S&W = WW231 works great in my Glock 35 with Bear Creek's 180gn LSWC Moly coated.
.45 ACP = WW231 " " Glock 21 " " 200gn LSWC Moly coated. IMR/Dupont 4895 for all .223, .308, and .30-06 accuracy loads, bar none. Though 4895 is course, it doesn't seem to matter if it's ~ .2 grain, so I load benchrest loads in my Dillon 550 and have never wanted for more consistent accuracy. |
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Jan 9 2008, 06:36 PM
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Coerced Group: Classified Posts: 6362 Joined: 29-December 04 From: FL Member No.: 4953 |
Titegroup is VERY temperature sensitive!!!
Hot weather = fast Cold weather = slow -------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:17 PM
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Ghost Dog Group: Admin Posts: 11862 Joined: 1-May 01 From: AZ Member No.: 171 |
QUOTE(yoshidaex @ Jan 9 2008, 01:50 PM) Brian, Thinking of carrying reloading components in your store ?Definitely not. This thread will just be a good resource for those beginning to reload. be -------------------- Hope is for the fools that care about what they hope for.
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Jan 9 2008, 08:52 PM
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Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 741 Joined: 17-December 05 From: Howard, OH Member No.: 7061 |
.40 S&W ... WST - great with lead bullets
.223 ... BL-C2 |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:08 PM
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 Burned Out Group: Classified Posts: 2565 Joined: 23-March 03 From: NY Member No.: 2258 |
.40 and .45 lead WST -less smoke, fairly soft
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Jan 9 2008, 09:43 PM
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 Sees Sights Group: Classified Posts: 299 Joined: 5-October 05 From: dfw Member No.: 6631 |
mi9mm, 3.1VV 310, 147 berry’s 147, 1.16
MA40sw, 4.5 TG, 180 berry’s 180, 1,18 MA45acp, 3.7 clays, 230 precision, 1.23 223 (ar) 25.6 748, 68 hornady #2278, 2.25 308 (ltr) 45.5 748, 168 hornady #3050, 2.80 |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:08 PM
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 Sees Sights Lift Group: Classified Posts: 361 Joined: 15-September 05 From: Spokane, WA Member No.: 6529 |
9mm -- 231 and Universal
.38 Super -- SR 4756 and SR 7625 .40 S&W -- WST and 231 .45 -- depends upon gun, bullet; IPSC, Pins, Bullseye, plinking, etc. -- Unique with 230 RN for ball equal; Bullseye for Bullseye; WST, 231 and Clays for IPSC 5.56 -- Varget and IMR 4895 7.62 Nato -- Varget, IMR 4895 and 3031 for light loads used at 200 yards. .30-06 -- Varget, IMR 4895, 4350 and 4320. .38 Special/.357 Mag. -- Unique, Bullseye and a very old powder that I bought lots of many years ago--5066. .38-40/.44-40/.45 Colt -- Trail Boss and Unique 7mm Remington Mag. -- almost any bullet weight and 4350 gives excellent accuracy. .257 Roberts -- 120 grain bullets for hunting 4320; 120 grain Match bullets for NRA Sporting Rifle Matches IMR 4895. -------------------- You can never see too many sun sets nor enough sun rises.
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Jan 9 2008, 10:26 PM
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 Calls Shots Group: Classified Posts: 759 Joined: 30-November 06 From: Raleigh,NC Member No.: 9772 |
9mm minor 5,7g ww231 on 124g fmj
9mm major 9.2g SP2 on 121g fmj 38super minor 5.7g ww231 on 124g fmj 38super/sc major 10.2 g vv3n38 on 121 fmj 38super/sc major 8.4 g Longshot on 124 fmj 40 vvn320 5.1g on 180 jhp 40 vvn330 5.4g on 180 jhp |
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Jan 10 2008, 12:00 AM
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 All Seeing and All Knowing Eye Group: Admin Posts: 28180 Joined: 2-May 01 From: Ohio (Columbus, McConnelsville) Member No.: 690 |
QUOTE(benos @ Jan 9 2008, 03:25 PM) What are your favorite Powders for 9, 40, 45... TiteGroup. TiteGroup. And, TiteGroup. -------------------- Have FUN....be safe...and, instead of worrying about what you are "suppose to do" - - notice what you are doing. Ask yourself why. See if it meshes with where you want to go.
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Jan 10 2008, 12:20 AM
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Sees Target Group: Classified Posts: 227 Joined: 9-December 03 From: Lafayette, Indiana Member No.: 3129 |
9mm major - SP2
38 Supercomp - IMR 7625 & Longshot 40 S&W - N320 in the US, Titegroup in Canada .223 - Varget -------------------- TRICKPONY
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Jan 10 2008, 12:49 AM
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 Burned Out Group: Classified Posts: 2011 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Earth Member No.: 3400 |
9 Minor, .40 Major & .45 Major: Titegroup
Major 9, 9x23: AA#7 .223 55: TAC and A2230 .223 69/77: Varget .308 147: DP85 (close range blaster loads for M1A) .308 155: Varget (longer range loads for M1A) .308 168: RL15 (Rem 700) .308 175: Varget (Rem 700) -------------------- I didn't slap you. I high fived your face.
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