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MSAR (Microtech) STG-556 A knife company making a gun

#1 User is offline   vrod2011 

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:46 AM

These are starting to ship now. Does anyone have any first hand experience with them? Any comments?

I work for one of the distributors who is carrying this rifle and I'm looking for feedback. We should be getting our first ones in today or tomorrow. I've heard they look great, but I'm more concerned about reliability and accuracy.

www.msarinc.com for those who want to check them out.

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 09:08 AM

looks interesting. however, if it comes from microtech it will be expensive.

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 09:10 AM

SgtSVI on our forums has one, he just posted pics in the gallery.

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 02:08 PM

Other than the "made is USA", looks just like the Styer AUG.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 02:12 PM

Handled 1 today. Feels looks and shoots just like the old styer aug. Has the scope on it and overall looks to be well made. Pricey at $2100, but when you compare that the real deals are in the 4k range then it isnt to bad. ! note though the microtech mags work in the styer but the styer mags wont work in the microtech.(or at least the 1 I held.)

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 02:19 PM

Very nice CQB rifle!! the optic on the original is not the best for any real long range stuff.
For years I have wished I had put one away for a rainy day <_<
Sure looks like a real nice rifle!!!

What is the optic power on this new one?
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 08:23 AM

They are shipping with a x1.5.

Ours came in yesterday, and they felt very nice. The trigger pull was heavier than I was hoping for. Also, with Microtech being Microtech, they promised us 30 rifles on our opening order and only sent us 10.

I should be getting feedback from some of my customers today. I'll post what I find out.

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 09:50 AM

I put a mag through Sgt Svi's a couple of weeks ago and I thought the same thing Jim did - great CQB rifle. Trigger is what it is, it's surely not a tricked out low mass gizmo, but it went bang every time I pulled the trigger and there's something to be said for that.

Recoil, even for a .223 was very mild. Slight up and right 'push'. At 25 yards we were consistently drilling the upper A zone off hand with no problems at all.

Nice little rifle.

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 06:06 AM

A friend of mine just got one of these. We haven't done any accuracy stuff but the gun functioned fine. The trigger is definetely not match grade but that is probably just how they all are. Dealing with MT is a bit trying. My buddy ordered extra mags that were supposed to be shipped the next day. That was 2 weeks ago and we are 1 state away. Promises, promises

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:10 PM

Got one the day before the election. Very nice, well built and balances perfectly. It is in Tan. It comes with 1 10 round magazine, but 20, 30 and 42 are available. I guess I will have to start ordering lots of mags now before they are all gone.

It has a 16” barrel, does anyone have a load (223 rem) for a short barrel 223? What powder would work best?

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 08:38 PM

Having gotten one of these, let me suggest that you invest in a " trigger tamer" for it. It is a replacement trigger part that basically reduces the tension on the spring that supplies trigger return force. It reduced the pull weight in mine to a much more manageable level. It also comes with a nice set on instructions on how to slick the trigger up some.

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:16 PM

View Postcaspian guy, on Nov 5 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

Having gotten one of these, let me suggest that you invest in a " trigger tamer" for it. It is a replacement trigger part that basically reduces the tension on the spring that supplies trigger return force. It reduced the pull weight in mine to a much more manageable level. It also comes with a nice set on instructions on how to slick the trigger up some.

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Peter's comment is spot on with one I received from a guy on the Sniper Hide Forum. The link is www.triggertamer.com.

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:40 PM

Is there anyway to change the optic?
Looks like one fun little gun!
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:37 AM

View PostJ-Ho, on Nov 6 2008, 12:40 AM, said:

Is there anyway to change the optic?
Looks like one fun little gun!

yeah, it comes right off, leaving a rail.
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 09:56 AM

Thought there were TWO Aug copies out now (plus a USA made Steyr in the works).

-which one has parts interchangeability with the original AUG?

-which part is the receiver on these things?
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 12:49 PM

Handled and shot both the STG556 and a FS2000 (FNH). Just wanted a bullpup rifle....and I liked the FS2000 better, although the Microtech looks less radical. Trigger on the FS as better, accuracy on both was about the same...adequate. Also the fact mag's are not easily available (STG556)...something to think about in the coming months. If I had to do it over again....I would have bought two nice AR's...unless you just have to have a bullpup.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 02:00 PM

Like the previous post, I've actually had both. Bought the FS2000 first, about 6 months later got the STG556. Compared the two and ended up selling the STG556 in a week. Both have crappy triggers compared to an AR, and the balance for me at least is just all wrong. Very hard to shoot accurately offhand at any distance, again for me. As was said earlier, the Microtech has unique mags, and they are kinda expensive. At least the FN uses good ole AR mags, but it has a rubber O ring around the mag well and you have to pull them out, they will not drop free. Although I did like the FS2000 better I did end up selling it too about 4 months ago. In retrospect, I think they are a novelty for the consumer, and especially for readers of this forum who more than likely will try them in a match setting (where they will get their butts handed to them by an AR).

IMO, if you are set on getting a short rifle on that configuration then my vote goes to the FS2000. But again, like the guy above me already stated you can get 2 AR's for the same price, or rig out a really nice 3-gun AR with some goodies on it.
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 04:51 PM

Anyone know where I can currently find one of these for sale ???
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Posted 20 December 2008 - 05:25 PM

Gunbroker dot com.

Mine's with FedEx right now...

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 08:23 PM

Thanks for the info.....but I got mine in about 2 weeks ago.....You'll love it !!!!!!!!!
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 09:54 AM

View PostCharles Bond, on Nov 5 2008, 11:16 PM, said:

View Postcaspian guy, on Nov 5 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

Having gotten one of these, let me suggest that you invest in a " trigger tamer" for it. It is a replacement trigger part that basically reduces the tension on the spring that supplies trigger return force. It reduced the pull weight in mine to a much more manageable level. It also comes with a nice set on instructions on how to slick the trigger up some.

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Peter's comment is spot on with one I received from a guy on the Sniper Hide Forum. The link is www.triggertamer.com.



Be careful with this modification. Installing it on your MSAR will VOID your factory warranty.

I talked to MSAR directly about this.

If you ever have to send your rifle in for repairs, you'd better remove the T.T. first !!!! ;)
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:24 PM

Anyone still looking for one of these, I am selling off mine, just not my cup of tea.. Thanks,
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 10:13 AM

PK Firearms has the STG-556 in stock.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:27 AM

Can I bring this thread back from the dead? Anybody got any serious trigger time on the new E4 that takes M16 mags? That seems to be the way to go since everybody's got a box full of M16 mags.
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 12:53 PM

I sent my STG-556 back to MSAR for conversion to an E4. I love it. It's a great handling rifle. I've shot it in a couple club-level matches and won with it. It's great for shooting on the move. The only draw back is the trigger. A little clunky, doesn't translate in to good double taps.
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