[Chris Conley]

Here's the problem. Stages that have no movement i.e. stand in box A and shoot x amount of targets have been really throwing me for a loop. It's like I can't get excited about it and loose all mental awareness and don't really see anything. The outcome is usually a blown stage and in a match they are my worst. The stage before was high round count alot of movement and had good time and good points. Even the stage after I did well. Don't know what to do to get over this. Any comments from the guru's would be great.

Chris C

This post has been edited by headhunter25: 11 June 2007 - 05:45 AM

[vluc]

Do you have that same issue with classifiers?

[Chris Conley]

vluc, on Jun 11 2007, 08:58 AM, said:

Do you have that same issue with classifiers?

Yes I do. I never really noticed this was going on until last weekend. I mean I kinda of knew but really didn't know what was causing it.

Chris C

[RufDog]

I seem to have the same problem, if I dont feel stress I dont shoot so well.

[Steve Anderson]

I've had this happen to me...there are at least two possible causes.

1. You've been practicing field course skills almost exclusively and your self image has changed. "I'm a great field course shooter, and I don't like stand and shoots"

2. You may be viewing these shorter stages a little differently. maybe they aren't as important to you...maybe you don't respect them...If you must "categorize" them at all, they are a great place to cement your current standing in the match.
Someone will ace it, some will tank it by hurrying and the great shooters will "coast" through them at 90% of stage points. Now when I say coast, I don't mean to imply that they do anything different..they just don't attempt to burn them down.

I can only think of one top shooter who goes in to WIN every stage. He's not the match winner as often as he used to be. When his planets align, he's unbeatable...but a stage win focus seldom yields a match win by itself.

Best advice I can give is to use dry fire for classifier type skills and live fire for field course skills. This assumes the fundamentals of an A class shooter. Below that, I would recommend additional live fire on the short stuff.

SA

[Chris Conley]

Steve,
What it does to me is I don't get that feeling of wanting to tackle the course. Just feel empty inside not charged up like I do on the longer "run and gun" types. I do the dryfire I learned in your first book and just got the 2nd on in the mail Friday. It's a mind thing that I have just got to get over and maybe look at the short stages in a different perspective.

Thanks for the info,
Chris C.

[Flexmoney]

Sounds to me like...

As Steve mentioned, you see yourself as a field course shooter.

I know where you are coming from. There is a whole match (local, non-affiliated club) that their stages are so mundane ,to me, that I just don't get excited to shoot there. When I do go, it takes quite a bit of mental focus to make myself execute the fundamentals of shooting.

Thankfully...USPSA shooting tends to give us a pretty good mix.

On stages that don't get me tuned in...I have to find a way to get where I need to be, mentally.

I'll remind myself that each shot is worth the same 5 points. I may also relate the stage to something else ... ('this stage is like steel challenge'...'this stage is like NRA/Bianchi'...'this stage is like taking the bad-guy out of the fight and not shooting the ever-so-grateful Playboy Bunnies'....or, whatever)

The goal...wherever you are, be all there.

Execute, and collect your points.

[Chris Conley]

Read about 50 pages so far of S.A.'s new book. I think I'm starting to figure this one out. Thanks Flex and Steve.

Chris C.

[XRe]

I found w/ stand and shoots that, while I would treat them like any other stage, something still wasn't sharp about my performances on them. In the end, I determined that I wasn't really as spun up for them as I would be on a field course stage. So, while I wasn't consciously trying to be different, I still internalized something different about those stages. Wrote about it in post #14 here: http://www.brianenos...showtopic=42625

[Chris Conley]

headhunter25, on Jun 11 2007, 12:19 PM, said:

Read about 50 pages so far of S.A.'s new book. I think I'm starting to figure this one out. Thanks Flex and Steve.

Chris C.

I think it all boils down to I hate shooting the standing stages and love shooting the run and guns. Hate = no focus and lack of interest, blown stage. I need a change of attitude towards those stages and make it to where I like to shoot them. I'll come up with something like Flex said he does.

Chris C.

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[IronEqualizer]

I have this problem and I think it is due to the fact that I try to blaze at the same warp speed as I can when running by targets. Field course warp speed shooting, targets seem to be 7yds and in and most stand and shoot, 10yds and out. I need visual patience.

[JFD]

The only stand and shoot stages I really ever come across are classifiers.

I tend to tell myself these are worth less than half the points of the rest of the stages (usually), so I tend to shoot them "not to lose" instead of shooting them "to win". The end result is I shoot really clean "C" class classifiers, yet I'm "B" class.

I plan on practicing classifier-type stages once a month and adjusting my attitude until I start to treat them like real stages again.

[Bret Heidkamp]

Not to mention stand and shoots, and just about all classifiers, tend to only test one particular skill. They are very focused and very unforgiving of any bobbles. Field courses let you bobble (relatively speaking) and still have a respectable run. For me, the pressure seems higher on classifiers and for years I've blown them terribly. This year I'm trying hard to overcome that by working more on my stand and shoot skills.