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Seeing Double With Both Eyes Open

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Post icon  Posted 11 February 2007 - 04:59 PM

I have a problem of seeing double when looking at the sights with both eyes open. I see the sight just fine but the one target that have on the wall becomes two. Any way to stop this or am I just going to have to deal with it the best way I can? :mellow:

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:27 PM

Try using a small piece of tape on the non-dominant eye for a while and see if that helps........

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:43 PM

what Mike means is, put a piece of tape on your shooting glasses, over your non - shooting/dominant eye.

That probably makes more sense than taping your eye shut. :P

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Post icon  Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:51 PM

I read that in Brian's E's book but I didn't understand that covered double vision. Will do the next time I dry fire. Thanks.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:52 PM

View PostCatfish, on Feb 11 2007, 06:43 PM, said:

what Mike means is, put a piece of tape on your shooting glasses, over your non - shooting/dominant eye.

That probably makes more sense than taping your eye shut. :P




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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:20 PM

Of course I knew what you meant. Mr. Head though could have been a little confused. :lol:

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:25 PM

Headhunter,

I wanted to mention that I actually DO this, which is why I say give it a try.
I shot while closing one eye until the last 6 months, and I have been working to keep both open, but I get double vision too when I do, hence the use of the tape.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:40 PM

Thanks Mike. I will give it a try tomarrow when I dry fire. I'll slicky a pair of saftey glasses from work before I leave.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:55 PM

I use the translucent medical tape, and it works for me. Keep us posted, I'm hoping it'll help!
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 07:08 PM

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 11 2007, 06:59 PM, said:

I have a problem of seeing double when looking at the sights with both eyes open. I see the sight just fine but the one target that have on the wall becomes two. Any way to stop this or am I just going to have to deal with it the best way I can? :mellow:

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 07:36 AM

I have the same problem.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 02:23 PM

I too had the double vision problem. I tried the tape on glasses trick and didn't like it. That's probably because I use monovision corrective lenses. My dominant eye lense is set for focus on the front sight, my non-dominant eye for distance. When I use the tape on the lense, I can never see a clear target.

Also, something else I ran into that's not as common is a vertical alignment issue. So when I was seeing 2 sights, the non-dominant eye picture was higher than the "real" sight, so that's the one I saw first. Basically, you should see "- - " I was seeing " - _"


I found getting a prism correction in my glasses took care of that and now I am able to ignore the 2nd sight and only use the one my dominant eye sees. It might be worth getting your eyes checked for vertical and horizontal alignment.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 05:23 PM

Tried the tape ove the left eye on the saftey glasses and worked well. I guess I should have told you guys that I don't wear glasses and vision is better than perfect. I found that it really helped me relax better too. Question - How long will it take so that I don't have to wear the tape anymore? In my head I'm thinking depends upon the individual.

Thanks for the tip guys,
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Posted 12 February 2007 - 05:40 PM

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 12 2007, 04:23 PM, said:

Question - How long will it take so that I don't have to wear the tape anymore? In my head I'm thinking depends upon the individual.


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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:53 PM

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 12 2007, 06:23 PM, said:

Tried the tape ove the left eye on the saftey glasses and worked well. I guess I should have told you guys that I don't wear glasses and vision is better than perfect. I found that it really helped me relax better too. Question - How long will it take so that I don't have to wear the tape anymore? In my head I'm thinking depends upon the individual.

Thanks for the tip guys,
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Well, I've been doing it for about 6 months.....and still need to--but it is still MUCH better than closing an eye.


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Post icon  Posted 12 February 2007 - 07:05 PM

Can you wear the tape on your glasses over one eye during a match. Sorry if this may sound stupid, I have never seen anyone do that.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 07:28 PM

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 12 2007, 08:05 PM, said:

Can you wear the tape on your glasses over one eye during a match. Sorry if this may sound stupid, I have never seen anyone do that.

Chris C.



Here is my routine: I carry the tape stuck to my 'barney' mag usually. At load and make ready, I first put the tape across the lens of my non dominant eye, then load up and am ready to go. When I fire the last shot, after unload and show clear, I pull tape back off and stick it either to my shirt or to a mag pouch. It's not a big deal all in all. Some people just have two pair of shooting glasses, one taped and one not, and just switch them when it's their turn to shoot. You've got a couple of options. Hope that helps.


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Posted 12 February 2007 - 08:20 PM

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 12 2007, 07:05 PM, said:

Can you wear the tape on your glasses over one eye during a match. Sorry if this may sound stupid, I have never seen anyone do that.

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Take a careful look at my book's cover and you'll see the trick positioning of the tape. I left it there all the time. Think about where you align the "bottom edge of the tape" like this: You want it so that, while in your "index" position, if you close your non-taped eye, you won't be able to see above your wrists/base of the hands. That method, for most, also allows you to "see under" the tape while doing anything but actually shooting. (Walking around, taping targets, moving through the stage, opening doors, etc.)

And on "how long will you have to do it"? There isn't an answer for that because it depends on the strength of your dominance. I pretty much always had to do it.
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Posted 12 February 2007 - 08:32 PM

Thanks Brian, I always wondered what that was on your glasses. It will take some getting used to. Felt really different today while dry firing. Thanks again everyone for the help.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 09:54 AM

View PostLoves2Shoot, on Feb 12 2007, 04:40 PM, said:

View Postheadhunter25, on Feb 12 2007, 04:23 PM, said:

Question - How long will it take so that I don't have to wear the tape anymore? In my head I'm thinking depends upon the individual.


If you are like me, forever, or maybe until you get old and you can't see.


I agree with Loves to shoot. I got to a point (aging sucks) that I needed the tape more now. I decided that I have to use this method to see my front sight well. At one point I got frustrated that I switch to Open, but my love for Limited I could not ignore so now I shoot with the tape on my glasses. It's not to bad. You get use to it????

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:28 PM

Here's what I use, it can be removed and reapplied. It's a self-cling style vinyl type material. It comes in two sizes, I prefer the larger.

http://www.browning....p;type_id=38808

http://www.gamaliel....p...t=73&page=1

http://www.midwayusa...leitemid=383683

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:45 PM

I suffered from this for years before I read Brian's book, it was an Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh moment, scores went up dramatically when I first started doing it. I put the tape on the inside of the glasses, you can hardly see it from the outside with a tinted lens.
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:47 PM

I'm a "newbie" in that I hadn't shot a gun (other than a 22 hunting rabbits 50 years ago) until about a year ago. Went to a USPSA local match with my son who wanted to shoot it. By the end of the match, just watching, I was hooked. Since then I have been shooting our local club's monthly match. I am one of those "close the left eye and sight with the right" - thought that was the way it was done. If I tried to keep both eyes open everything became fuzzy/double (was focusing on aligning the front/rear sight).

Well today, I go to see a buddy at the shop and we get to talking about last weekend's match (he's an "A" shooter). I told him I couldn't understand how he and the local GM/M's could acquire and shoot so fast. He says, "you're using both eyes, right?". Well I fess up and he tells me if I will just focus on the exact spot I want to hit on a target, the sights will pretty much align when I bring the gun up.

Is he pulling my leg.....I go home and try what he told me. Lo and behold it actually works! I try it a number of times and it is uncanny how the sights seem to automatically line up. Can't wait to go to the range tomorrow for some live fire testing. Doesn't seem like it would work but by golly, dry firing it seems to. Come on Sun, go down and then come up so I can head to the range.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 08:00 PM

View PostLori Casper, on Feb 19 2007, 12:28 PM, said:

Here's what I use, it can be removed and reapplied. It's a self-cling style vinyl type material. It comes in two sizes, I prefer the larger.

http://www.browning....p;type_id=38808

http://www.gamaliel....p...t=73&page=1

http://www.midwayusa...leitemid=383683

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This is the way to go. I still have the same set I bought 2yrs ago. They last forever. I think you get 5 or 6 different colors with the set, maybe more. I think this yr I'm going with the smaller size. I starte out with the tape and got tired of the glasses getting smeared and sticky. Then add some wind and dust and the glasses get to be a mess.


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Posted 02 March 2007 - 08:44 PM

View PostBritinUSA, on Feb 19 2007, 01:45 PM, said:

I suffered from this for years before I read Brian's book, it was an Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh moment, scores went up dramatically when I first started doing it. I put the tape on the inside of the glasses, you can hardly see it from the outside with a tinted lens.


Oh my. I've read BE's book, but I never tried the tape trick until tonight.............Holy smokies, I CAN SEE! I CAN SEE! :)
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