Winchester Supreme Sporting
Posted 18 September 2002 - 10:29 AM
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Posted 20 September 2002 - 11:58 PM
Posted 23 September 2002 - 10:06 AM
Of the couple O/Us I've shot, I don't care for the feel and handling of the Browning XS Ultra Sporter, and I loved the old beater Winchester 101.
What really sucks is that a clays gun is the one gun you must try before you buy, and in the best case scenario all I can do is throw one to my shoulder in a shop, if I'm lucky.
Posted 23 September 2002 - 11:28 AM
It's one the few things I don't like about being on the west coast: if you want to go to a shop that has quality & variety for sporting clays (or most any other true shooting sport), you're generally SOL.
Posted 04 October 2002 - 05:58 PM
I just saw a good deal on Berettas today. Buy a 682 Gold E, and get a 3901 (consumer grade 391) for free. Team up with someone who needs a 391 and sell it to them for $500 bucks. 682's are running just shy of $3K right now at Cole's. I think you can get a very similar deal here on the West coast.
Posted 07 October 2002 - 11:33 AM
My big problem with purchasing a O/U is I didn't like the feel of the Browning I shot and I refuse to use Beretta products. (I also I refuse to purchase Ruger products.) That eliminates a whole bunch of possibilities.
Oh yeah, the clincher on buying a Marocchi sight unseen: the weight, well over 8 pounds. I'm a spoiled 1100 shooter and I don't want to be beat to death shooting a 7.5# gun on a sporting clays course.
Check it out: adjustable comb, adjustable trigger, lengthened forcing cones, porting (a drawback to me), backbored, Invector Plus compatible chokes (3 included), silver receiver, blued 30" bbls
My bet is it'll have butt-ugly wood.
Posted 07 October 2002 - 12:13 PM
BTW - Are you allowed to have an adjustable comb stock in Sporting? None of the Sporting-specific shotguns I've looked at have one. (I do want one, though if I can get it. I might buy a Skeet gun and sneak it in if I can.) 8+ lbs? The only way to get that in a Beretta is to go with the DT10, which starts about 5K and goes up. Ouch!
For the chokes, if you decide to expand your collection and buy Brileys, I found out that the only difference between the spectrum chokes (colored bands on the end) and the standards, is well, the colored band. You can save about $15-20 bucks a chocke by buying the ugly knurled ones. (Which are clearly laser marked on the side.)
What's your beef with Beretta, by the way? Get smacked by the slide off a 92F? ;) (Feel free to message me offline on this one, lest we pollute the forum.) I'm totally hip to passing on the Rugers, though.
As for Brownings, I fell in love with a 20 ga Citori O/U. It had an English style straight-stock. Light, svelte, pointable, aaahhhh... It was a sweetie. The rest of the Browning line, just feels big and clubby to me. Their gas gun has all the svelteness of a 4x4 post.
Every day I use my 391, I love it more. Don't ask me why I *need* an O/U, but I'm getting the itch anyway. I guess I need to open the safe and see what I'm willing to part with.
Congrats on the new baby. When does it show up?
Posted 07 October 2002 - 04:06 PM
I'm going to get a couple more chokes to fill in the gaps at the top and bottom. It comes with SK, IC, and M. The black oxide Brileys looked fine to me.
I don't know when I'll get it... FFL B.S., cros-country shipping, plus Caliban waiting period.
My beef with Beretta is they made a gun that's dangerous to its user and they didn't recall it or attempt to notify owners. They settle suits with non-disclosure agreements to keep it quiet.
My beef with Ruger is that their leader encouraged magazine capacity restrictions.
My opinion of the Browning Ultra is it felt like a 2x4 with a vent rib (a goofy one, at that).
Posted 07 October 2002 - 04:15 PM
Oh....Brian!!....could you fill us in on this?
The low-gun mount is a good thing - although I've been constantly criticized for doing it consistently throughout every discipline. I do it just because it's the way my Dad taught me. Plus, it keeps me from fixating on the barrel. If you ever plan on hunting with your new blaster, you need the mounting skill anyway. Might as well start out right...
(Edited by EricW at 3:20 pm on Oct. 7, 2002)
Posted 25 November 2002 - 04:54 PM
Also handled and shot a 682 Gold. Niiiiiice! It immediately reminded me of when I stepped off my production-line Honda CBR600F2 onto a hand-built Honda Racing Corp. RC30. You could tangibly feel the build quality. And it fit me, too. Thank goodness I already bought a new shotgun or I'd want one.
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