[The Brit.]

I'm thinking about running a Man V Man comp. at my local club using the long barrelled revolvers we are legally allowed to own here in the UK.

I've looked at the "J" ladder in the rule book for the Man V Man shoot off at the end of the Major comps, but it looks complicated!.

Does anyone know of a computer scoring system that could handle this? or failing that, does anyone have any experience of running one of these who could give me a few tips?

[AlamoShooter]

If you have a big bourd that you can fill in names with eazy = like a dry erasor makers

We had sheets made up on 8.5 X 14 paper with big boxes to put names in that went on a clip bourd.
If the names are eazy to fill in it is not a big deal. setting up pairs is the hard part.
Overlapping stop plates will help alot to settle ties. And stagerd start signals for a faster shooter. Like an A class shooter would wait for 0.5 seconds after the B class shooter's start.
The J ladder is good just make big boxes on the papper to put the names in.

[ong45]

J ladders are not that bad to deal with. You can download different size ladders to fit the number of competitors you might have. If you have an excess just draw names for ladder placement and sprinkle byes around to be fair.
Single elimination can be quick and dirty , if you want more shooting use double elimination.
Pool tournament web sights are a good source material.
James

[alellis]

I have run a couple of M vM but not recently.

The j ladder looks complicated but isn't too bad when you get used to it.

Best plan I could think of was to blow up the ladder to about 4 ft long and cover it with clear plastic. Then if you made a mistake ( which always happens) you just clean it off and put it in the right place.

We always did best of three at each challenge and don't forget that the best from the left side has to beat the best from the right side twice to win.

Before I run one myself I ran a couple of imaginary ones with made up names and flicked a coin to decide who won each challenge. Thats how I got to understand the ladder



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[EricW]

Kevin Imel has this worked out to a T. He built a large wooden board with clothespins that does everything you need with a J-ladder. Hopefully he'll see this and post a pic. No computer necessary.

The key is to have someone who *is not* shooting the shootoffs to run the ladder full-time. Otherwise it's easy to lose track of what's going on.

[Flexmoney]

The J-ladder in the old rule book seemed like it was printed wrong. I mentioned that to vince once, but I don't know if it was addressed in the latest version of the rule book or not.

They aren't to tough.

The most fair version and the biggest turnout that I have seen was at the Missouri Fall Classic. They run a field of 10 or so poppers and a stop popper (overlapping) for each shooter. The upper (M & GM) class/Open shooter had to shoot all 10 poppers. Shooting Limited got a popper taken out of your array, and each class you were below Master got a popper taken out of your array. Or...something like that. They ahd a great turn out...40 or 50 shooters.

[The Brit.]

Thanks for the tips. I was planning on shooting and scoring if we could use a pc. I like the idea of 'best of three', gives everyone an excuse to put more rounds down range! (allways a good thing!)

I'll post how I get on if/when I run it.

Cheers.