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#1 goose2125

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:47 AM

Hi everyone i am new here and also new to open guns. My question is i am gonna be ready to take the leap in the next couple months for an open, But her lies my problem i wanna shoot factory rounds for the first year or so as i have an inventory already of 26,000 rnds. Ive done sum research and seen that sti offers the steel master thats will run factory just fine.Is their any other makers out their that offer an out of box gun that will run factory rounds without constant tinkering with it ?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:56 AM

Hi Goose,

STI is about the only "factory" for Open guns but there are tons of great gunsmiths that can get you an Open gun in a reasonable amount of time. Depends on what you what there, either more customization or having to pick up an off-the-shelf gun to start running.

However, if you did get just any Open gun, most will run factory ammo with just a switch of the recoil spring. All mine will run factory and 9Major without a change in springs but it does help to get the right spring for your load.

Good luck and welcome to the forum...

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

Thanks for the info. So what would be my chances when i am ready at finding a steel master in hard chrome that is in good shape without a new price. Also what would a good used price be for one ?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

In hard chrome? That might be a little difficult. I know Dawson and Brazos do a lot of STI guns and then will do reliability jobs and hard chroming but that takes more time and the cost goes up. Once you are over the 50 post mark on the forum, you can ask the members if anyone has one to sell. Of course, if you are looking for used, this is probably the best place to buy it along with some of the well known auction sites.

Used price for one?? I am thinking in the low to mid 2K mark, depending on extra work that was done and if mags come with it or not.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:32 PM

i have an inventory of 26,000 rnds.

Mike, what kind of ammo is it? Some ammo is "hotter"
than others -

One problem you might encounter is that 9mm STI's use
.38 super mags, which are 1.25" long - 9mm factory loads
are frequently 1.1 - 1.15" long - so the shorter rounds
have a tendency to NOT feed in the mags, especially without
spacers.

I fed my TruBor factory Remington green box 115 grain ammo
at 1100 fps - as long as the gun was clean and well lubed,
it ran pretty well, but I did have spacers.

:cheers:
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Jack, Super Senior

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:45 PM

All of my 9 is wwb and the new federal 100 packs.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:48 PM

the Matchmaster is nice also and will run minor with the lighter spring. If your looking to eventually go to major, check out the matchmaster

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:19 PM

Is their any other makers out their that offer an out of box gun that will run factory rounds without constant tinkering with it ?




Call Bobby Carver and get one of his G17s already built and it will eat all of your wwb and you will never have to work on it, accuracy will be the same if not better. The trigger will have a bit more pre travel but after a while you wont even notice it. Or watch the classifieds if your quick you can pick up a used rig with mags for a good price but they usually go fast.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

X2 for Bobby Carver. He also does XDm's if your not a Glock person. My XDm has had nothing but out of the box ammo and some NATO round and has been flawless so far.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

All of my 9 is wwb and the new federal 100 packs.

Any idea of the velocity on them? (the higher, the better) :cheers:
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

On the glock, check out the ones carver does with the SJC mount. With the carver mount your basically stuck with a cr speed holster. with the SJC mount, you can use something like the racemaster, ghost etc

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

On the glock, check out the ones carver does with the SJC mount. With the carver mount your basically stuck with a cr speed holster. with the SJC mount, you can use something like the racemaster, ghost etc


Beat me to it. Bobby can build an open Glock with either mount (His, or SJC's) and they run reliable, and fast. Check my youtube link to see my Carver in action. cycles pretty quick. You can check out his website www.BB-Enterprise.biz and look around.

on the ammo topic.....FMJ's will leave lead deposits in your comp due to the exposed lead base. Not an issue, just have to maintain it or the buildup will start to clog everything up regardless of open gun type. Good luck in your choice.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:35 PM

Keep your eye on the classifieds, I just picked up a nice SS 45, I'm thinking of trying that for awhile if I do I will have a carver 17 open gun mags and holster up for sale soon...Might regret it though, but I have to many as it is :-)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:26 PM

K not sure of velocity but i will check.As for a glock thats not gonna happen ! LoL I now have a xdm 5.25 and it is a great gun im just gettin ready to step up a notch or two like sti or ? or ?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:57 PM

So with alittle more research i am finding out that all four or the sti open guns can run factory ammo as long as u can find the proper recoil spring. Do most of u guys find this to be true ?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:53 PM

My trubor will with the same 11 pound spring. I do have a lightened slide though

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 04:06 AM

Has your trubor been lightened from the factory or another gunsmith ?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:43 AM

Cheeley did the work. The matchmaster comes lightened though from the factory

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:39 AM

My buddy's Czech mate ran minor handloads and factory ammo just fine OOB.
After replacing the recoil spring and a worn extractor, my Open Tanfoglio now has over 1k minor handloads and factory (115gr Am Eagle) rounds through is without any issues.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

I know I am a little late to the party, but, I have a Dawson tuned Steelmaster that has ran all factory ammo that I have fed it. I have had my Steelmaster for a couple years and have only changed the scope mount, I went to a 90 degree from Matt Burkett. I did have an issue with one of my factory big sticks, I would get alot stove pipes from empties hitting the scope mount. None of my other 6 mags had this issue, I changed the mount and no more jams.

If you can't find a used one, Get a new one that Dawson has done, you won't be sorry.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

So what is the chances of finding a good used one in hard chrome ?

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 04:40 AM

Is selling off the factory ammo and investing in a press be an option for you ?

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

Well my son shoots a 1911 9mm so i am def open to options. I just have really become fond of the looks of the SM

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

If you plan on going to major in the future i would go matchmaster over steelmaster

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:05 AM

My buddy's Czech mate ran minor handloads and factory ammo just fine


Same with mine.




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