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CM 03-02 Six Chickens

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Posted 14 August 2004 - 09:44 AM

http://uspsa.org/classifiers/03-02.pdf
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Posted 21 August 2004 - 01:36 PM

shot this one today - 7.35 i believe 56 points - i know this can be done under 7 - but my strong hand shooting aint all that great

besides... those no shoots dont help any <_<
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Posted 21 August 2004 - 02:00 PM

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Posted 15 September 2004 - 02:39 PM

Lee:

I'll bet yours comes in at 100%. In a conversation I had with the good folks at Sedro it was mentioned in passing that folks are achieving abnormally high hit factors on this one. I imagine when this was shot under match conditions (to set HHF) the shooters went slow enough to avoid the no-shoots. Under club conditions, if a person goes like a bat out of Hades and slops them all in there, he/she will probably do extremely well. This could end up being a gradbagger's delight in those clubs that are liberal about re-shoots.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:43 PM

Shot this one today. I hate this classifier with an unrivaled passion. The Six Chickens suck canal water. If I never shoot this again, it will be too soon. Open 52 points 8.67seconds, 5.9977 hf.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 09:04 PM

58 points, 8.16 seconds, HF 7.1078

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 01:48 PM

I shot this one today, actually easier than I thought it would be.

Production: 50 points in 9.11 seconds.

Open (with my freakin Production equipment): 54 points in 8.11.

Interested to see what these come out at.
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 09:23 AM

Wow, I just figured the HHF for this stage and it looks like I shot 100% in both Production AND Open.

Oh, btw...Lee, yours comes in at 115%. ;)
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 12:16 PM

The hit factor for this one might be way too low. I shot the stage fairly slow and deliberately and came in at 90.6 per cent.
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 12:36 PM

I'm with Ron, mine came in at 100% in L-10, and I guarantee that I'm not GM material. Yet. It did move me up to A class in L-10 (now A in L/L-10), dashing all my sandbagger hopes!
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 12:49 PM

I don't think it's necessarily too low, it's more of a hero or zero classifier. At the club I shot it at, the vast majority of shooters had penalty points.

Look at the Limited nationals results from 97 and TT won this stage with an 8.25.

Just shooting A's as quickly as you can is the only way to do good on this classifier.
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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:06 PM

I reviewed the scores of every shooter at our four classifier special. This classifier averaged out 11 percent higher than any of the other classifiers for those who didn't have penalites. This will in all probablity be the mother of all grandbagger classifiers. I shot 90% cruising, John and Sam shot 100%, Kevin moved up to M class Limited with a solid GM score, another friend moved from C to B with the highest score he has ever shot, and the list goes on. Yeah, the hit factor is too low.
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Posted 18 October 2004 - 05:14 PM

<_ :o O. K. guys here it is hot off the press.
Limited- 52 points, 9.14 seconds, one penalty still got me a 72.9050%
Limited 10- 49 points, 8.69 seconds, one penalty and that one is a 74.9495%
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Posted 21 October 2004 - 07:40 PM

Aaaagh! A perfectly good grandbagger stage to get me to B class, and I get a big fat ZERO. I shoot the first three targets TWICE freestyle, then forgot to miss those targets strong-hand. Three extra shots + three extra hits = 60 points in penelties on a 60 point stage.

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 07:32 PM

lol yeah - i shot this again today - im starting to HATE this classifier

OPEN : 7.4 something HF

I believe thats over 100% again - and if I'm shooting this constantly over 100, then this classifier is definitely too low of a HHF
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Posted 14 November 2004 - 07:56 PM

We shot this today ... I took my time so I'd get the hits. It worked great on the freestyle, then we had some problems on the strong hand only.

In a blistering 13.63 seconds, I scored 43 points, minus 30 for the no-shoot and two misses, for a hit factor of 0.9538!

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 08:24 PM

Seems like at least half the shooters blow the stage and end up with HF under 3 so that is probably bringing down the average. Although I would agree with Ron that it seems when shot well it scores about 10% over what I'd expect.

My scores haven't posted yet. From other scores I'm seeing from the past few months on this stage that have posted:

Open
HF 6.2791
94.8762 %

Limited
HF 5.0744
80.5077 %

Limited 10
HF 3.0010
50.1177 %

Production
HF 0.6223
11.6153 %

Yes that sample production HF is correct. Like I said a lot of folks blow this stage.
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Posted 17 November 2004 - 03:05 PM

In the vein of providing pointers on the stage as mentioned on one of the FAQ's, here is my opinion for what it is worth:

This is a simple stage from a procedure perpective and it has no movement. However it has a high disaster factor with a no-shoot at every target position.

The best bet is to see the sights on every shot. Shooting for the top of the A zone seems to be the safest route. Take a good sight picture of this region during your LAMR. Only shoot when your sights are in the desired region, especially for the shot after the draw and those around the reload. Be sure to have the visual patience on these shots.

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 05:04 PM

Shot this last week Unclassified Open. The dot on my propoint went intermittent on the draw but stayed steady for both strings after the first shot.

56pts, 14.5s, 3.86HF Should be around 59%

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 10:01 PM

Jake,

Roughly what is the HHF for Six chickens in Production?

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 06:37 AM

I think it is a rule that we can't post HHF in the open. But with a little math you can figure it out from the results posted above. B)
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:18 PM

Shot Six Chickens today with the Limited gun, 9.03 with 4 points down. HF of 6.2016 I think.
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:39 PM

Shot this one today in Production: 52 points in 12.18 seconds for a HF of 4.2692.

Anyone know about what percentage that will come in at?

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:00 AM

This is a simple ratio based on the previous posts.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 11:40 AM

Looks like 79-80%, Cor.

I can't remember what my points were on it, but I think it was 52-56, no penalties, in the mid to high 9s. Figuring a 5.2525 HF it looks like I'm at 83.37% on that one.

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