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[Destry34]

I shot some of my cousins reloads today out of my 1911, and when I was shooting I noticed powder flying all over my arm. I know he loaded them with titegroup, but that's all any suggestions on why there was powder going everywhere

Edited by Destry34, 16 May 2012 - 07:03 PM.

[Destry34]

Anybody?

[Steve RA]

One assumption would be that the powder was not all ignited properly. Without a little more info it's pretty hard to say what the exact problem might be.

[TCBDoubleTap]

A shooter at a match today had a similar problem - traces of powder "blow back" on his right arm.
An experienced reloader at the match suggested that it might have been caused by loading with a relatively light powder charge which doesn't cause the case to expand enough to fully seal the chamber.
Ever hear of such a thing?


Tom

[Destry34]

I talked with a "seasoned" reloader, and he was saying that is somewhat common with 45 not completely burning the powder

[Pat Miles]

I shot some of my cousins reloads today out of my 1911, and when I was shooting I noticed powder flying all over my arm. I know he loaded them with titegroup, but that's all any suggestions on why there was powder going everywhere

What powder? What load? This is usually caused by a very light load that does not build enough pressure to light off all of the powder.
Give us more info regarding the load and we can help you.
Pat

[theycallmeingot]

when i first started reloading, i started with 45. i made loads that would cycle the slide everytime; that's it. didn't know or care anything about power factor. with those light loads, i always had unburnt powder.

try:

figure out how light you like to load them. record the FPS. take a look at a reloading manual and find a powder that claims to safely go just below your desired FPS. you'll notice a lot of powders don't claim to work at very slow speeds. (loading under the minimum charge can be dangerous, and can result in all the unburnt powder you're describing.) it's best to stay within the advertised parameters of the powder. It's not always going to make your gun blow up, but can end up with unwanted results, such as unburnt powder flaking on you everytime you shoot. also, some powders, even though they give a charge weight that will give you your desired fps, might still end up with unburnt powder. could take some testing to find one you like.

i use clays to load 45s to 130 power factor: very little unburnt powder.
i also use it to load to 170 power factor. no visible unburnt powder.

[fastluck13]

I shot some of my cousins reloads today out of my 1911, and when I was shooting I noticed powder flying all over my arm. I know he loaded them with titegroup, but that's all any suggestions on why there was powder going everywhere

With Titegroup it is probably burnt powder crud. TG seems to do this at any pressure for me.

[Destry34]

Thanks for the replies, I'm really not sure how much tg, but it is a 230 grain bullet

[TonyT]

I shot some of my cousins reloads today out of my 1911, and when I was shooting I noticed powder flying all over my arm. I know he loaded them with titegroup, but that's all any suggestions on why there was powder going everywhere

My favorite bullseye pistol load for 25 yards with the 45 ACP is 3.8 gr HS-700X, Rem 2.5 behind a 185 gr. LSWC - accurate and mild ca 720 fps velocity. The only minus is the unburned powder grains down my arm.

[osageid]

Agree with doubletap, when I load titegroup light I will more of this on my arm as opposed to higher grain. Another thing is there some " tarnish" on case that can be as doubletap is mentioning about case not fully expanding in chamber?


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[wide45]

My experience with .45ACP, is that you will get unburned powder with W231, HS6, and old Unique. You won't with WST, Clays, or WSF.

[greenlion]

The 45ACP is already a low pressure round. If you use slower burning powder, or do not use enough of a charge, the powder may not have enough pressure to burn completely. I've experienced this more often with slower burning powder like Universal or Unique, but I guess the same holds true for Titegroup. Ask if he was using low-end loads. If so, he might want to use the upper end of the published loads from his reloading manual.

[JohnGaultsGun]

Sounds a lot like Win231. Kinda flaky type of powder.

[Caffeinated]

When I started loading .45 I tried some Titegroup (with 230 gr bullets) at the lower end of the recommended range and it was extremely dirty. Like the gun stopped running after a few hundred rounds kind of dirty. Once I bumped the charge up it was better at burning more powder.

3.9 grains of Clays behind a 230 grain bullet was very clean shooting but I was having issues making power factor. Now I have settled (for the time being) on 4.7 grains of WST behind 230 grain Berrys.

[open3gunner]

had the same problem with my kimber 45acp loaded with universal powder, what the other experienced reloader told me is reduce the oal by.05 and it worked it made my kimber run cleaner

[John Wayne]

Try tightening the crimp. Tite group really shines on low powder charges. I haven't tried it on my .45 (231) yet but had the same unburnt powder problem with a light crimp in .38.