Edited by Njanear, 12 May 2012 - 09:33 AM.
Question on timer reporting
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Njanear
, May 12 2012 09:08 AM
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#1
Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:08 AM
During the last steel match, we had a few shooters take at least 2 accurate shots on the Stop Plate on a few of the runs. The question arose as to whether their time for the run should be: (A) when their first shot hit the stop plate or ( B ) when they finished the run. Is the timekeeper required to back up the shot timer to record the time on the first hit or do you keep the time from the last hit? I don't think I saw it addressed in the rule book, so I was wondering what you thought/understood.
#2
Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:32 AM
The timer is supposed to stop after the stop plate is hit. As a matter of fact, I was advised by a respected shooter to put 2 shots at the stop plate, of course this applies to the Challenge, where a stop plate hit stops the clock.
#3
Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:07 PM
If you don't have plate activated stop timers it's always been backed up to the first hit on the stop plate so the scorekeeper would need to watch the plates. Usually on the stop plate the s/k will yell hit or something to let the shooter know the stop plate was hit.
At the Steel Nationals (2010? 2011?) they started backing up the timer for only one shot. Before that you could hammer the stop plate a dozen times and you would get the time at the first hit, IF the RO could determine which one was the first hit. Now if you shoot the stop plate a dozen times with a hit every time you only get backed up one shot meaning you'll get credit for 11 hits on the stop plate. Derek said they started doing this because some shooters would get frustrated and hammer the stop plate and then it would take several minutes to figure out the time which wasted a lot of time and slowed down the match. I just looked at the latest SC rulebook and this is now the official procedure, D.3.1.
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At the Steel Nationals (2010? 2011?) they started backing up the timer for only one shot. Before that you could hammer the stop plate a dozen times and you would get the time at the first hit, IF the RO could determine which one was the first hit. Now if you shoot the stop plate a dozen times with a hit every time you only get backed up one shot meaning you'll get credit for 11 hits on the stop plate. Derek said they started doing this because some shooters would get frustrated and hammer the stop plate and then it would take several minutes to figure out the time which wasted a lot of time and slowed down the match. I just looked at the latest SC rulebook and this is now the official procedure, D.3.1.
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#4
Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:51 PM
yeah, Kenny and KMCA are correct, back it up to get the first hit on the stop plate. However, the rules now state that only two shots but at my match, we allow the time to be backed up indefinitely if there is a legitimate reason. Just as it was stated above, if someone just nails the plate due to frustration, then no, they get the last time on the timer.
#5
Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:51 PM
Thank you for the feedback. I also appreciate the notice of the updated rules, KenD - the verson that I had saved down on my PC is from 2009 (when I first tried plates) and read as: "Sound” scoring uses conventional (USPSA-type) shot timers that “hear” each shot. The competitor’s elapsed time stops with the last shot fired." Those new 2011 rules are exactly as you stated, so I guess I need to check for updates more often.
Thanks again, all.
Thanks again, all.
#6
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:39 PM
What do They use for an electronic stop plate?
Where do they come from?
Where do they come from?
#7
Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:41 PM
What do They use for an electronic stop plate?
Where do they come from?
You can make your own, here's a link talking about it:
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120912
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