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#1 kmca

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:26 PM

Is there a difference between Para extractors and standard 1911 extractors?

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:16 AM

Sometimes the extractor is a standard 1911 part, in some models its the "Power Extractor". See the thread right below this one for a lot more details.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:56 PM

I don't have a power extractor. I was trying to replace my used extractor with a new Wilson Bullet Proof extractor. The "hook" of the Wilson is about .030 too far forward of the case rim. I was just wondering, if the Wilson extractor is "out of spec", or is the Para extractor dimensionally different.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:35 PM

some fitting may be necessary.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:57 PM

some fitting may be necessary.

I understand fitting could be required, even with "drop in" parts. The problem I see with this extractor is, the distance between the firing pin stop and the hook is about .030 longer than the extractor that's in it now. Okay, maybe I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, but I don't know how to move the slot closer to the hook without welding :unsure: .

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 06:51 PM

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I'm going thru this right now myself. I have filed the slot on my extractor about 30 thousandths closer to the breachface. This seemed to look about right in the case/rim/extractor hook relationship. I have filled the slot in the extractor with epoxy hardening putty you can buy at the auto parts store. I'm not sure the "hardening putty" will hold up or not but worth a try.

After it sets up and I file most of it off, i'll test and get back to ya.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 07:47 AM

kmca

I'm going thru this right now myself. I have filed the slot on my extractor about 30 thousandths closer to the breachface. This seemed to look about right in the case/rim/extractor hook relationship. I have filled the slot in the extractor with epoxy hardening putty you can buy at the auto parts store. I'm not sure the "hardening putty" will hold up or not but worth a try.

After it sets up and I file most of it off, i'll test and get back to ya.

On advice from the gunsmith forum, I pulled an extractor from a 9mm and tried it. It fit perfectly. I guess the difference in extractors isn't Para vs 1911, but 9/40 vs 45, or maybe it's a coincidence.

Edited by kmca, 19 October 2011 - 07:47 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:34 PM

A recent update:
I called Springfield, since their 9mm extractor seemed to fit, and they told me that the 9mm and the 45 extractors have a different part number. I ordered one, so I'll know in a few days.

Thanks for all your help.:)

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 05:29 PM

kmca,

You didnt ask but......I shot 50 rounds thru the gun with the above mentioned modification to the extractor slot. No joy. After the 50 rounds the extractor was moving ~.010 -.015 for and aft. Back to the drawing board.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

Got the extractor from Springfield....at first glance, it looks good. I'll measure it in the morning and let you know if it's still the wrong one :)

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 10:08 AM

New update...the Springfield 9mm extractor fits perfectly. A little filing on the hook and it extracts well. Only problem is the Springfield extractor is stainless steel and my slide is blued...I can live with that :)




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