It's always good to watch and shoot with better shooters. Problem is that you won't be able to emulate their behavior until your basic skills level comes up to theirs. I spent years shooting long range silhouettes so when I plan a stage I will shoot any and all targets I can at longer ranges than normal so I don't waste 5 seconds running up to the fault line to do it because I'm not young and fast like I was. If you can get someone who is a great shooter to watch and assess you it can be priceless. Use your strengths and practice to overcome your weaknesses.
Shooting with better shooters...
Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:36 AM
I think of it the same way as learning a language. When we are young we learn to speak by talking with older more experienced people. Mistakes are infact encouraged, and corrected as we go. If we shoot or speak or learn anything new with people on our own level the time it takes to acheive mastery is greatly increased. I love the shooting sports for exactly that reason. Everyone is friendly and willing to help us through our journey. Watching videos is a great way to learn but one on one attention is irreplaceable.
Edited by duketdub, 28 February 2014 - 09:39 AM.
Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:16 AM
Its like any sport... you only get better with practice and working with better competition....
Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:14 PM
I heard it yrs ago that if you hang with a certain skill level crowd you will rise no higher than the crowd, which is fine ifthat is your thing, butf orthose who want to excell to the maximum oftheir abilities??? need to look beyond the comfort zone/squad
I was pretty much the worst shooter for a long, long time...when the results got pinned up, start at the bottom ("hey, I came second last!" lol)
Then I changed clubs, got some proper instruction from much better shooters than me and have improved considerably in the last couple of years. You not only see what is possible but get pushed, as you say calishootr past your comfort level. You can surprise yourself with how well you do out of that zone.
Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:40 PM
It has already been said, but I was grouped with the better shooters a few times in the past. While I learned from watching I fell into a trap the first time of thinking I had the ability to keep up with they're pace. I did not and my scores suffered. I was just focusing on the being fast, rather than smooth.
I didn't even realize I was doing it at the time. So like has already been said you can learn from the better shooters as far as tips and techniques, but you don't want to try and shoot there pace until you are ready.
Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:18 PM
I prefer to shoot with better shooters. When I try to go as fast as them, I screw up. However, I still shoot much better with them than I do when I end up on a squad of people with more limited skill sets. Shooting with better shooters forces me out of my comfort zone.
Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:33 AM
When you stop learning from the group you shoot with is it time to change up the group? I am far from this point. Just wondering. I do like the comment, "shoot slow, do everything else fast"...
Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:58 PM
i shoot with another revo shooter we are about equal, he is a better shot and i know how to play this game( been shooting for a lot of years) and we push each other, we both just shot our first GM score on a classifier at the same match, I was not getting any better till he started shooting at our club , some times it just nice to have some one to shoot against.
USPSA A5341 NPAA 371
Posted 02 June 2014 - 08:24 AM
I like to "chase" someone especially if we are in the same group of friends. It just helps push my limits to get better instead of just staying in "cruise control"
Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:07 PM
I like having better shooters at matches, gives me drive for improvement. Also makes it more fun when I beat one of them.
Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:32 AM
Better shooters make us better shooters, it is a bit humbling at first, but then yiou rise to the level of those that you are shooting with if you are training. Then it gets fun....
Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:13 PM
I always try to get on a squad with shooters better than me. You definitely shoot better when you are with better shooters. Some of their plans and techniques are bound to "rub off on you." The opposite is also true.
Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:54 AM
I may just be blessed to live by cool people but it seems like the better the shooter the nicer the shooter. The higher end shooters are usually very helpful and I always try to squad with them. To be honest though, I've often wondered if they were just tired of having to wait for slower shooters.
That being said, I was squaded with significantly better open and limited shooters at a major match last year and I ended up tring to shoot the match at their pace. Of course I shot too fast for my ability and ended the match with 6 misses. If I would have spent a whole additional second per miss I would have been more competitive in my class and division (L10).
I think the best advice to give anyone is shoot slow , do everything else fast and listen to others. It's very annoying to try and help someone out only to get excuses as to why they can't follow the suggestion.
I shot my first firearm match ever 3 wks ago...went with a friend to a USPSA match. Our squad R.O. was a GM. I did not even know what the acronym USPSA stood for until I googled it after the match.18 misses on that one. 51/52 overall. I have no where to go but up from here. I just shot my 3rd steel shoot in 2 wks this past Sunday, a Steel Challenge with the same group as that first USPSA match. I finished 30/42 overall...I constantly tell myself "Make the hits"...the speed will develop on it's own. Lots of helpful info in this thread.
ps. I watched an Akai Custom Guns team member blaze away and hit too many stop plates prematurely...He opted for a DNF...some of this advice crosses all classes.
Edited by Quackhead, 12 August 2014 - 09:01 AM.
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