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[gunzoo]

OK, so...

I bought a Wolff Rod and 14# spring combo and found out the rod is not legal (it's steel). How do I change the recoil spring to 14# on a factory guide rod? Is there another, non-captured, plastic rod available that I can use to put a reduced weight spring on?


Thanks,

~Mac

[usp45ss]

Jager makes the only IDPA legal one I know of. It can be done on the stock one but I did't mess around with it and just bought the Jager.

[gunzoo]

Jager makes the only IDPA legal one I know of. It can be done on the stock one but I did't mess around with it and just bought the Jager.

I see on Jagers site rods for everything except the 34??? Everything for the 34 is steel and as such...illegal for IDPA. *SIGH*

Link?


THANKS!

Edited by gunzoo, 23 February 2010 - 04:50 PM.

[usp45ss]

I use the polymer 17 one in my G34. The factory rods and springs are the same for the G17 and G34. Some manufacturers make a rod specifically for the G34 that is a little longer.

Edited by usp45ss, 23 February 2010 - 05:01 PM.

[Steve Koski]

See Duane's post below.

Edited by Steve Koski, 23 February 2010 - 10:13 PM.

[Duane Thomas]

As has been noted, you have two options if you want to stay legal in SSP:

(1) Get a Jager polymer guide rod and run the Wolff 14-pound music wire spring.

(2) Retain the stock guide rod and install an ISMI flat wire spring. BTW, ISMI does not make a 14-pound spring, they skip over that with 13 and 15 pounds. Most people go for the 13 in 9mm. Also as has been noted, the factory guide rod in the Glock 17 and 34 is the exact same part. I'm not talking "similar", I mean it's the exact same catalog part number.

[gunzoo]

Great feedback, guys. THANKS!!!

[Duane Thomas]

Yer welcome.

[eel]

As has been noted, you have two options if you want to stay legal in SSP:

(2) Retain the stock guide rod and install an ISMI flat wire spring.

Is there a way to remove the stock spring from the stock guide rod without damaging it? Does that end piece just pull out and can be snapped back in with the new spring?

[Glock3422]

As has been noted, you have two options if you want to stay legal in SSP:

(2) Retain the stock guide rod and install an ISMI flat wire spring.

Is there a way to remove the stock spring from the stock guide rod without damaging it? Does that end piece just pull out and can be snapped back in with the new spring?

As always, unload and clear the gun.

Lock the slide to the rear and using plyers, side cutters, etc., grab the button so you can pull it straight off. I like needle nose plyers that can get behind the button from the side to pop it off.

Once it is off, release the slide to forward, and remove the slide from the gun.

Carefully remove the now uncaptured guide rod and spring.

Replace the old spring with the new one and put it back in the gun.

Replace the slide on the gun and lock it back.

Replace the button.

Done.

[kmitchl]

I've never been sucessful in getting the button from a factory guide rod to stay in place after I removed it. Never bothered me too much since I use a free guide rod anyhow.

[Steve Koski]

Another way to remove the factory guide rod tip is to get a piece of stiff piano wire and tap the tip out from the rear (have to bottom out/compress the spring, like through a hole drilled in a 2x4).

[kevin c]

Another way to remove the factory guide rod tip is to get a piece of stiff piano wire and tap the tip out from the rear (have to bottom out/compress the spring, like through a hole drilled in a 2x4).

A section of wire coat hanger worked for me.

Edited by kevin c, 04 March 2010 - 04:18 PM.

[Duane Thomas]

I've never been sucessful in getting the button from a factory guide rod to stay in place after I removed it.

Me either.

[Steve Koski]

I've had some last for 4 or 5 cycles. I've had others that refused to hold after just 1 removal/replacement.

[Duane Thomas]

By "cycles" you mean four or five removals and reinstallations into the gun?

[Glock3422]

I've had some last for 4 or 5 cycles. I've had others that refused to hold after just 1 removal/replacement.

And if it doesn't hold, all you have is an uncaptured plastic guide rod. Just like the original guide rods.

[Duane Thomas]

Yep. That's how I ran them for years.

[Steve Koski]

By "cycles" you mean four or five removals and reinstallations into the gun?

Removal/reinstall of the tip.

Edited by Steve Koski, 05 March 2010 - 07:37 AM.

[Duane Thomas]

Wow. I trash it just getting it off the first time.

[lugnut]

I can't understand the need for a captured GR in a Glock... if you are careful you avoid carnage very easily.

[Steve Koski]

Duane - Try the wire/punch it out from the backside method. No wear on the outside of the tip.

[Duane Thomas]

Thanks. Sounds like a technique that could work.

[MemphisMechanic]

I've done the "grab and rip with pliers" technique on a half dozen local shooters guns. All running a 13lb IMSI spring now. None of them have come loose.

The plug in my 34 has been out at least four times, and it's still there when I finish shooting every time. Even if it didn come off, you wouldn't notice it until you took the gun apart after the match, so I don't sweat it too much.